Cults | counterknowledge.com https://counterknowledge.com Improve your knowledge with us! Mon, 27 May 2019 14:16:17 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 More on Jett Travolta: an audio recording of L. Ron Hubbard talking about epilepsy https://counterknowledge.com/2009/01/more-on-jett-travolta-audio-recording-of-l-ron-hubbard-talking-about-epilepsy/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=more-on-jett-travolta-audio-recording-of-l-ron-hubbard-talking-about-epilepsy Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:16:16 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2009/01/more-on-jett-travolta-audio-recording-of-l-ron-hubbard-talking-about-epilepsy/ In the wake of Jett Travolta’s death from a seizure, it is timely to present this audio recording of L. Ron Hubbard speaking about epilepsy:   And then people who have epilepsy, which is a type of disease which gives them seizures, are almost always …

The post More on Jett Travolta: an audio recording of L. Ron Hubbard talking about epilepsy first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
In the wake of Jett Travolta’s death from a seizure, it is timely to present this audio recording of L. Ron Hubbard speaking about epilepsy:

 

And then people who have epilepsy, which is a type of disease which gives
them seizures, are almost always found on some minor drug that prevents them from getting these—they call them petit mal seizures. Thats epilepsy. I dont care how they call it. Sometimes they really seize and sometimes its just slight. One of those, if an epileptic ever took you by the hand and so forth, he’s liable to break every bone in your hand, if he suddenly had a seizure. But the doctors keep them on something to prevent this. Its just a tranquilizer and they keep them on that one year, year in and year out. And then you come along as an auditor and you try to audit the PC [pre-clear] and you tell the PC that he’ll have to go off that drug. And then all of a sudden, why something will happen from someplace or another that the PC will tell the doctor that they have been taken off the drug by the auditor. And the doctor will call up plaintively asking you to please put her back on the drug because she needs this. And you get into a collision between medical treatment and so on. Now I’ve been using a lot of medical words here or chemical words really. Just don’t pay any attention to them because they’re mostly gobbledygook, and there’s an awful lot of gobbledygook words. Gobbledygook just means nonsense chatter, you see. There’s an awful lot of them. 

Tory Christman, a former Scientologist who is now one of the most vocal critics of the “Church”, struggled for years to keep taking her epilepsy medication. In 1971, she joined Scientology’s “elite” upper echelon the Sea Organization and was ordered to stop taking her anti-seizure medication and start taking vitamin pills instead. Inevitably, she started having seizures which increased in number and in magnitude. She states in an affadavit written in 2001:

This went on for I think 3 months. I was losing my memory due to all of the seizures. I would wake up in the morning and try to dash into the refrigerator. Daily I would have a petit mal (small seizure), and come to with all of the vitamins spread out all over the kitchen floor. The lady I was renting a room from had two children. Constantly they would come in and find me on the floor, and yell “Mommy, Tory dropped her vitamins again”. This woman was one of the kindest people to me, and I will never forget her. Her name is Mary Jessup, and she was married previously to Nate Jessup. All during this time the Scientologists were very evaluative to me, and many treated me like a leper, but not Mary. She was always very compassionate. She had left Scientology some time earlier.

Finally one morning in the shower I knocked my front teeth out during a Grand Mal seizure. All during this time my mother was begging me to go back on all of my medication. Being new in Scientology, I assured her Dianetics and Scientology would handle this. Finally, after so many seizures and so much trauma, I realized no matter what these people thought, I wasn’t going to live if I kept doing this. At that point I decided to go back on my medication in full, no matter what.

She eventually was allowed to take her anti-seizure medicine again, after stubborn persistence, and at the cost of a career in the Sea Org.

It was earlier reported that Jett Travolta was on the anti-seizure medication Depakote, but was taken off it because it supposedly caused health problems. This could be a plausible explanation, given that Depakote can cause liver damage. But was Jett Travolta taken off Depakote cold turkey, without being prescribed another anti-seizure medication? There is a list of other anti-seizure medication with fewer side-effects than Depakote, but there is nothing to suggest that Jett was on another medication.

Did the “Church” of Scientology persuade the John Travolta and Kelly Preston to give up on conventional medicine and instead treat their son with Scientology’s “alternative” therapy?

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

I am an epileptic, but have been seizure free for 25 years, because I take Dilantin/Phenytoin every day. I’m evaluated by a medical doctor on a regular basis who performs actual tests to measure my brainwave activity. It continues to show abnormality, therefore, I take my meds on a regular basis. I live a normal life, drive, swim, ride roller-coasters, and yes, take showers without fear of seizures. The Jett Travolta story is just very sad, but I’m sure there will be no formal inquest.

I have posttraumatic epilepsy and unfortunately, as of yet cannot have a normal life. I cannot drive, swim, have a bath alone or even be alone really as I have such horrendous tonic clonic seizures. I think the piece of dialogue shown by L Ron Hubbards reeks of naivety. First of all he refers to all epilepsy as ”petit pal” when we know ”petit mal” and ”grand mal” are two completely different types of seizure and he claims to be using technical jargon but clearly has no idea what he is talking about. Tranquilisers? Since when do we take tranquilisers? This is seriously frightening that people follow a religion lef by a complete a utter baffoon with clearly no medical knowledge or expertise whatsoever.

I did not have my diamond wedding rings on. They put me down as indigent. I was attending school when it occurred. They put me down as indigent. I told them I have no one here to call to come and get me. They put me down as indigent. I gave them my address, in an affluent section of town. They put me down as indigent. They went through every corner of my purse and wallet. They did not call any numbers that were there. I have friends and family, but when they are not local at the time, apparently the doctor considers me indigent. They asked where I work. I told them I don’t work. They put me down as indigent. They didn’t ask how I support myself. They put me down as indigent. I drive an older car to be frugal, but because the one that costs 8 times as much was in the repair shop. Now, I have a 4 figure bill from the hospital. What do I do? How can I prove anything if the hospital does not have the women sign the form as being in the room when the doctor did what he did? He did not have put his arms around me. I was not injured going into the hospital. I have been so afraid that if I sue, I could not prove anything.

Tory Christman is absolutely right — she kept having memory problems when she had the seizures. It appears to have never returned because most of her affidavit is wrong. $cientology told her she could have her medication and she could take her courses. But she couldn’t be a member of the Sea Org while on medication. Tory put herself through her process because she wanted so badly to join the Sea Org. That’s the real truth.

In the wake of Jett Travolta’s death from a seizure, it is timely to present this audio recording of L. Ron Hubbard speaking about epilepsy:

 

And then people who have epilepsy, which is a type of disease which gives
them seizures, are almost always found on some minor drug that prevents them from getting these—they call them petit mal seizures. Thats epilepsy. I dont care how they call it. Sometimes they really seize and sometimes its just slight. One of those, if an epileptic ever took you by the hand and so forth, he’s liable to break every bone in your hand, if he suddenly had a seizure. But the doctors keep them on something to prevent this. Its just a tranquilizer and they keep them on that one year, year in and year out. And then you come along as an auditor and you try to audit the PC [pre-clear] and you tell the PC that he’ll have to go off that drug. And then all of a sudden, why something will happen from someplace or another that the PC will tell the doctor that they have been taken off the drug by the auditor. And the doctor will call up plaintively asking you to please put her back on the drug because she needs this. And you get into a collision between medical treatment and so on. Now I’ve been using a lot of medical words here or chemical words really. Just don’t pay any attention to them because they’re mostly gobbledygook, and there’s an awful lot of gobbledygook words. Gobbledygook just means nonsense chatter, you see. There’s an awful lot of them. 

Tory Christman, a former Scientologist who is now one of the most vocal critics of the “Church”, struggled for years to keep taking her epilepsy medication. In 1971, she joined Scientology’s “elite” upper echelon the Sea Organization and was ordered to stop taking her anti-seizure medication and start taking vitamin pills instead. Inevitably, she started having seizures which increased in number and in magnitude. She states in an affadavit written in 2001:

This went on for I think 3 months. I was losing my memory due to all of the seizures. I would wake up in the morning and try to dash into the refrigerator. Daily I would have a petit mal (small seizure), and come to with all of the vitamins spread out all over the kitchen floor. The lady I was renting a room from had two children. Constantly they would come in and find me on the floor, and yell “Mommy, Tory dropped her vitamins again”. This woman was one of the kindest people to me, and I will never forget her. Her name is Mary Jessup, and she was married previously to Nate Jessup. All during this time the Scientologists were very evaluative to me, and many treated me like a leper, but not Mary. She was always very compassionate. She had left Scientology some time earlier.

Finally one morning in the shower I knocked my front teeth out during a Grand Mal seizure. All during this time my mother was begging me to go back on all of my medication. Being new in Scientology, I assured her Dianetics and Scientology would handle this. Finally, after so many seizures and so much trauma, I realized no matter what these people thought, I wasn’t going to live if I kept doing this. At that point I decided to go back on my medication in full, no matter what.

She eventually was allowed to take her anti-seizure medicine again, after stubborn persistence, and at the cost of a career in the Sea Org.

It was earlier reported that Jett Travolta was on the anti-seizure medication Depakote, but was taken off it because it supposedly caused health problems. This could be a plausible explanation, given that Depakote can cause liver damage. But was Jett Travolta taken off Depakote cold turkey, without being prescribed another anti-seizure medication? There is a list of other anti-seizure medication with fewer side-effects than Depakote, but there is nothing to suggest that Jett was on another medication.

Did the “Church” of Scientology persuade the John Travolta and Kelly Preston to give up on conventional medicine and instead treat their son with Scientology’s “alternative” therapy?

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

I am an epileptic, but have been seizure free for 25 years, because I take Dilantin/Phenytoin every day. I’m evaluated by a medical doctor on a regular basis who performs actual tests to measure my brainwave activity. It continues to show abnormality, therefore, I take my meds on a regular basis. I live a normal life, drive, swim, ride roller-coasters, and yes, take showers without fear of seizures. The Jett Travolta story is just very sad, but I’m sure there will be no formal inquest.

I have posttraumatic epilepsy and unfortunately, as of yet cannot have a normal life. I cannot drive, swim, have a bath alone or even be alone really as I have such horrendous tonic clonic seizures. I think the piece of dialogue shown by L Ron Hubbards reeks of naivety. First of all he refers to all epilepsy as ”petit pal” when we know ”petit mal” and ”grand mal” are two completely different types of seizure and he claims to be using technical jargon but clearly has no idea what he is talking about. Tranquilisers? Since when do we take tranquilisers? This is seriously frightening that people follow a religion lef by a complete a utter baffoon with clearly no medical knowledge or expertise whatsoever.

I did not have my diamond wedding rings on. They put me down as indigent. I was attending school when it occurred. They put me down as indigent. I told them I have no one here to call to come and get me. They put me down as indigent. I gave them my address, in an affluent section of town. They put me down as indigent. They went through every corner of my purse and wallet. They did not call any numbers that were there. I have friends and family, but when they are not local at the time, apparently the doctor considers me indigent. They asked where I work. I told them I don’t work. They put me down as indigent. They didn’t ask how I support myself. They put me down as indigent. I drive an older car to be frugal, but because the one that costs 8 times as much was in the repair shop. Now, I have a 4 figure bill from the hospital. What do I do? How can I prove anything if the hospital does not have the women sign the form as being in the room when the doctor did what he did? He did not have put his arms around me. I was not injured going into the hospital. I have been so afraid that if I sue, I could not prove anything.

Tory Christman is absolutely right — she kept having memory problems when she had the seizures. It appears to have never returned because most of her affidavit is wrong. $cientology told her she could have her medication and she could take her courses. But she couldn’t be a member of the Sea Org while on medication. Tory put herself through her process because she wanted so badly to join the Sea Org. That’s the real truth.

The post More on Jett Travolta: an audio recording of L. Ron Hubbard talking about epilepsy first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
346
Jett Travolta: It is time for the authorities to take Scientology’s quackery seriously https://counterknowledge.com/2009/01/jett-travolta-it-is-time-for-the-authorities-to-take-scientologys-quackery-seriously/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jett-travolta-it-is-time-for-the-authorities-to-take-scientologys-quackery-seriously Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:15:53 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2009/01/jett-travolta-it-is-time-for-the-authorities-to-take-scientologys-quackery-seriously/ Jett Travolta (Picture: AP) This week, we learned that 16-year-old Jett Travolta died after hitting his head during a seizure. His parents have always denied his autism, claiming instead that he suffered from an obscure condition known as Kawasaki syndrome, contracted from “carpet-cleaning chemicals”. According …

The post Jett Travolta: It is time for the authorities to take Scientology’s quackery seriously first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
Jett Travolta (Picture: AP)

Jett Travolta (Picture: AP)

This week, we learned that 16-year-old Jett Travolta died after hitting his head during a seizure. His parents have always denied his autism, claiming instead that he suffered from an obscure condition known as Kawasaki syndrome, contracted from “carpet-cleaning chemicals”.

According to For Great Justice:

John Travolta and Kelly Preston have only publicly spoken of their son’s having had Kawasaki Syndrome, an unlikely source of seizures, for which they treated him with Scientology’s vitamin, sauna, and running therapy known as the Purification Rundown. There has also been considerable speculation on whether Jett was autistic or had Asperberger’s Syndrome. While a confirmed diagnosis has not been made public, reports of Jett’s behavior make such a diagnosis more likely than not. At the very least, he suffered some sort of neurological impairment that contributed to his fatal seizure.

In truth, Jett Travolta’s autism has been known about for years. In 2007, Hollywood Interrupted reported:

Tim and Patricia Kenny are the proud parents of a 4 year-old autistic girl, believe that it might be time for Child Protective Services to look into John Travolta and wife Kelly’s negligence in acknowledging their son Jett’s reported autism.

The Kennys also claim that Kelly and John “let Jett sit in front of video games all day eating junk food, while they eat the best organic food money can buy. They exclude Jett from all social events because they are embarrassed.”

“Once,” reports Kenny, “when Kelly took him to the movies, Jett started to have a meltdown and Kelly pointed at the nanny and ordered, ‘Take care of it.’”

“Jett does not speak at all,” confirms Kenny. “He has not even been taught how to communicate. We struggle every week to pay for our daughter’s therapy. How dare he [Travolta] ruin his own son’s chances of recovering! We want to get the word out on this.”

The Travolta family are prominent Scientologists. Scientology doesn’t “believe in” autism, and eschews conventional medicine – including anti-convulsive and anti-seizure medication – in favour of a cocktail of quackery with no basis in medical science. Jett is not the first person to suffer as a result of this kind of “therapy”.

Amid the concomitant tabloid circus, it is easy to forget that this was a real human being: a child suffering from autism. And Jett Travolta did not get the treatment his condition required because his parents subscribe to a cult that recommends pseudo-scientific remedies for serious and debilitating medical conditions.

This morning, a commenter on Damian Thompson’s Holy Smoke blog wrote:

Kelly Preston, Jett’s mother, was on the board of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights which is virulently anti-psychiatry and anti-medication. How many children’s lives have been negatively interfered with by the influence of this Citizens Commission on Human Rights, which is part of Scientology, we shall never know. There is, therefore, a kind of justice that the mother, who demonstrated against psychiatric and medical treatment and who would have been involved in the threatening of psychiatry, has lost a son as a result of this anti-medicine belief that has distressed other parents all over the world.

How true that is. And how easy it is for us to laugh at Scientology – at the ridiculous space opera stories, the E-meters, and the obviously bogus science.

But a child has just died. Whether or not his death was accelerated by the tenets of Scientology, it seems certain that while he was alive, his quality of life was severely impaired by parents who hid him because they were ashamed of him, who were unaware of his death for several hours (his body was discovered by a caretaker), and who denied him the treatment he needed, all as a result of their faithfulness to the principles of Scientology.

It is time that the authorities took the Church of Scientology’s quackery seriously.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

More on the caretaker/nanny. Was it Travolta’s “gay lover”?

http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/mystery-jett-travoltas-nanny

Thank you for that editorial Milo. Here’s my two cents, for what they’re worth: http://number6enturb.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/bringing-up-scientology-does-not-exploit-jett-travoltas-death/

The cover-up and deflection on this story is just beginning.

Read the insights of a former high-ranking Scientologist on how the organization will handel the cover-up and public relations here:
http://www.endthecult.com/2009/01/a-former-scientologist-on-jett-travolta/

If Jett were denied adequate medical treatment by “Christian” parents, he would have been removed from the home long ago, and the parents would have been criminally charged with neglect, or some form of murder when he died…
Why don’t the same legal standards apply to followers of Scientology?…

Sad thing is this is not all that uncommon. Scientologists are not allowed by the cult to get many types of medication. Ask doctors. They know. How many scientologists get sick and die who aren’t famous?

Go to whyaretheydead.com if you want a complete list of people who have died because of the “Church” of Scientology.

Freedom of religion, Thay loved Jett and that is all that matters. They just lost their only son you heartless cruel people.

I feel sorry for them that they lost their only son, however I feel more empathy towards a child that was denied conventional medical treatment because the parents are wrapped up so tightly in some cult that does not believe in medicine. The kid was having grand mal seizures weekly and should have been on medication. It takes time to try different medicines to find the correct one with seizures. “Treating” him with Scientology mumbo jumbo does not cut it.

Nonsense. We now know Jett was taking a drug called Depakote, a strong anti-seizure medication. There have been reports Travolta refused to give his son anti-seizure meds because of Scientology but those stories are not true.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/05/john-travoltas-son-meds-ultimately-did-harm/

There are other medications for epilepsy besides depakote. I wonder if people will ever know if they put him on another medication or did they just give up on anti-seizure drugs altogether. I had a friend who transitioned from depakote to another drug, and in that transition period, her seizures got really bad and she is now one semester behind in college. Taking someone off depakote cold turkey makes seizures worse.

He was on Depakote and it decreased his seizures but his Scientology parents said it was hurting his internal organs so they took him off of it. They tried Scientology methods, not modern medicine. Most people with seizures have to keep changing their medicine. They were in denial that there was anything wrong with him, he obviously had serious problems that they refused to address or get him conventional medical help for. They “treated” him with various Scientology methods that obviously did not work.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/66a7c5f0e0f33248

Interesting, but one thing this site has taught me is not to believe everything you read. Presenting a section of a ‘Hollywood, Interrupted’ article as fact and saying “such a diagnosis more likely than not.” without any real evidence is using the same techniques that supporters of counterknowledge do. All this article does is make the people who already hate Scientology shake their heads; and those who support Scientology hate or discredit you for presenting non-fact as fact. When our only weapon is truth you lose when you fudge it.

P.S. What is this about Travolta’s gay lover! Come on! I could read perez hilton if I wanted to know about that junk.

What has Counterknowledge come to? With the exception of Lesley and Shawneka, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Where is your proof that Jett Travolta suffered from autism? Do you simply take the (quite possibly dubious?) word of a couple of ex-neighbours, or the insinuations of scandal mags? Also there are many other medical conditions besides epilepsy that cause/result in seizures. And how do you know (Mr or Mrs Cultawareness) for a fact that the boy was denied other conventional drugs apart from Depakote? I have no absolutely truck with Scientology with its crap idiology and practices but I do know for a fact that life-saving drugs are most certainly NOT denied to their members. Again, how do you know the Travoltas ‘were in denial’ about their son’s condition? I even read that the Travoltas were supposedly ashamed of their son’s condition. You only have to look at their family photos splashed all over the newspapers to know that this was a rotten lie. By all means carry on exposing Scientology, conspiracy theories and quackery but please make sure you stick to the facts (which, after all, you constantly accuse other people of not doing) and don’t attack people who have just tragically lost a child without being able to substantiate every claim you make.

Did I ever make the claim he had autism? I don’t know what he had but he had something mentally wrong with him and Scientology says people with mental illness are degraded and can be cured with Scientology, not medication. Scientology has been fighting psychiatric medications and illnesses for years. That is something they say, not something I am making up or assuming. Maybe you need to do more Scientology research, I have done my fair share and it did not start with Jett’s death.

Jett had epilepsy. Epilepsy is when you have ongoing seizures, which Jett had. Someone that just has 1 seizure is not considered epileptic. I have seen interviews where his parents said they took him off seizure medicine because they thought it harmed his internal organs. There are many seizure medications, most people have to change them or go on more than 1 medication during their lifetime. It is a shame this was not done for Jett, he had Scientology treatments instead. At least that is what his parents have stated. Johns Hopkins could have probably cured him of his seizures as they have done with many other epileptics.

Don’t get mad Cult Awareness. We are on your side; I don’t like Scientology. All I and I think Ronnie C are saying is your research on Scientology is much more useful than any speculations.

I am not mad Leesa and I have tons of empathy for the Travolta’s that they lost a child. However, I have been assaulted and harrassed by a scientologist, I have been locked up in a room by a cult and not allowed to leave. I know all too well the dangers they pose. I also have quite a bit of experience with epilepsy and know that Scientology discourages conventional medical treatments, they think if you have a mental illness or disorder that the only cure is Scientology. They have led the bandwagon on trying to rid the world of ritalin and the psychiatric profession.

Here in Nevada, a mother has been charged with murder because she did not give her diabetic 11-year old daughter insulin. And she died. What makes this any different, a child, with autism (epilepsy) which can be treated isn’t and he dies? This is truly a sad story. But I doubt anything will come of it. (That case in Nevada is: Nevada v. Cheryl Musso). Your different religions don’t give you the right to neglect a child. EVER.

sounds like counterknowledge has a conspiricy theory about the Travoltas to me. Hang on arent we against conspiricy theories.

helo! The babes are here! This is my sexiest site to visit. I make sure I am alone in case I get too hot. Post your favorite link here.

Jett Travolta (Picture: AP)

This week, we learned that 16-year-old Jett Travolta died after hitting his head during a seizure. His parents have always denied his autism, claiming instead that he suffered from an obscure condition known as Kawasaki syndrome, contracted from “carpet-cleaning chemicals”.

According to For Great Justice:

John Travolta and Kelly Preston have only publicly spoken of their son’s having had Kawasaki Syndrome, an unlikely source of seizures, for which they treated him with Scientology’s vitamin, sauna, and running therapy known as the Purification Rundown. There has also been considerable speculation on whether Jett was autistic or had Asperberger’s Syndrome. While a confirmed diagnosis has not been made public, reports of Jett’s behavior make such a diagnosis more likely than not. At the very least, he suffered some sort of neurological impairment that contributed to his fatal seizure.

In truth, Jett Travolta’s autism has been known about for years. In 2007, Hollywood Interrupted reported:

Tim and Patricia Kenny are the proud parents of a 4 year-old autistic girl, believe that it might be time for Child Protective Services to look into John Travolta and wife Kelly’s negligence in acknowledging their son Jett’s reported autism.

The Kennys also claim that Kelly and John “let Jett sit in front of video games all day eating junk food, while they eat the best organic food money can buy. They exclude Jett from all social events because they are embarrassed.”

“Once,” reports Kenny, “when Kelly took him to the movies, Jett started to have a meltdown and Kelly pointed at the nanny and ordered, ‘Take care of it.’”

“Jett does not speak at all,” confirms Kenny. “He has not even been taught how to communicate. We struggle every week to pay for our daughter’s therapy. How dare he [Travolta] ruin his own son’s chances of recovering! We want to get the word out on this.”

The Travolta family are prominent Scientologists. Scientology doesn’t “believe in” autism, and eschews conventional medicine – including anti-convulsive and anti-seizure medication – in favour of a cocktail of quackery with no basis in medical science. Jett is not the first person to suffer as a result of this kind of “therapy”.

Amid the concomitant tabloid circus, it is easy to forget that this was a real human being: a child suffering from autism. And Jett Travolta did not get the treatment his condition required because his parents subscribe to a cult that recommends pseudo-scientific remedies for serious and debilitating medical conditions.

This morning, a commenter on Damian Thompson’s Holy Smoke blog wrote:

Kelly Preston, Jett’s mother, was on the board of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights which is virulently anti-psychiatry and anti-medication. How many children’s lives have been negatively interfered with by the influence of this Citizens Commission on Human Rights, which is part of Scientology, we shall never know. There is, therefore, a kind of justice that the mother, who demonstrated against psychiatric and medical treatment and who would have been involved in the threatening of psychiatry, has lost a son as a result of this anti-medicine belief that has distressed other parents all over the world.

How true that is. And how easy it is for us to laugh at Scientology – at the ridiculous space opera stories, the E-meters, and the obviously bogus science.

But a child has just died. Whether or not his death was accelerated by the tenets of Scientology, it seems certain that while he was alive, his quality of life was severely impaired by parents who hid him because they were ashamed of him, who were unaware of his death for several hours (his body was discovered by a caretaker), and who denied him the treatment he needed, all as a result of their faithfulness to the principles of Scientology.

It is time that the authorities took the Church of Scientology’s quackery seriously.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

More on the caretaker/nanny. Was it Travolta’s “gay lover”?

http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/mystery-jett-travoltas-nanny

Thank you for that editorial Milo. Here’s my two cents, for what they’re worth: http://number6enturb.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/bringing-up-scientology-does-not-exploit-jett-travoltas-death/

The cover-up and deflection on this story is just beginning.

Read the insights of a former high-ranking Scientologist on how the organization will handel the cover-up and public relations here:
http://www.endthecult.com/2009/01/a-former-scientologist-on-jett-travolta/

If Jett were denied adequate medical treatment by “Christian” parents, he would have been removed from the home long ago, and the parents would have been criminally charged with neglect, or some form of murder when he died…
Why don’t the same legal standards apply to followers of Scientology?…

Sad thing is this is not all that uncommon. Scientologists are not allowed by the cult to get many types of medication. Ask doctors. They know. How many scientologists get sick and die who aren’t famous?

Go to whyaretheydead.com if you want a complete list of people who have died because of the “Church” of Scientology.

Freedom of religion, Thay loved Jett and that is all that matters. They just lost their only son you heartless cruel people.

I feel sorry for them that they lost their only son, however I feel more empathy towards a child that was denied conventional medical treatment because the parents are wrapped up so tightly in some cult that does not believe in medicine. The kid was having grand mal seizures weekly and should have been on medication. It takes time to try different medicines to find the correct one with seizures. “Treating” him with Scientology mumbo jumbo does not cut it.

Nonsense. We now know Jett was taking a drug called Depakote, a strong anti-seizure medication. There have been reports Travolta refused to give his son anti-seizure meds because of Scientology but those stories are not true.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/05/john-travoltas-son-meds-ultimately-did-harm/

There are other medications for epilepsy besides depakote. I wonder if people will ever know if they put him on another medication or did they just give up on anti-seizure drugs altogether. I had a friend who transitioned from depakote to another drug, and in that transition period, her seizures got really bad and she is now one semester behind in college. Taking someone off depakote cold turkey makes seizures worse.

He was on Depakote and it decreased his seizures but his Scientology parents said it was hurting his internal organs so they took him off of it. They tried Scientology methods, not modern medicine. Most people with seizures have to keep changing their medicine. They were in denial that there was anything wrong with him, he obviously had serious problems that they refused to address or get him conventional medical help for. They “treated” him with various Scientology methods that obviously did not work.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/66a7c5f0e0f33248

Interesting, but one thing this site has taught me is not to believe everything you read. Presenting a section of a ‘Hollywood, Interrupted’ article as fact and saying “such a diagnosis more likely than not.” without any real evidence is using the same techniques that supporters of counterknowledge do. All this article does is make the people who already hate Scientology shake their heads; and those who support Scientology hate or discredit you for presenting non-fact as fact. When our only weapon is truth you lose when you fudge it.

P.S. What is this about Travolta’s gay lover! Come on! I could read perez hilton if I wanted to know about that junk.

What has Counterknowledge come to? With the exception of Lesley and Shawneka, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Where is your proof that Jett Travolta suffered from autism? Do you simply take the (quite possibly dubious?) word of a couple of ex-neighbours, or the insinuations of scandal mags? Also there are many other medical conditions besides epilepsy that cause/result in seizures. And how do you know (Mr or Mrs Cultawareness) for a fact that the boy was denied other conventional drugs apart from Depakote? I have no absolutely truck with Scientology with its crap idiology and practices but I do know for a fact that life-saving drugs are most certainly NOT denied to their members. Again, how do you know the Travoltas ‘were in denial’ about their son’s condition? I even read that the Travoltas were supposedly ashamed of their son’s condition. You only have to look at their family photos splashed all over the newspapers to know that this was a rotten lie. By all means carry on exposing Scientology, conspiracy theories and quackery but please make sure you stick to the facts (which, after all, you constantly accuse other people of not doing) and don’t attack people who have just tragically lost a child without being able to substantiate every claim you make.

Did I ever make the claim he had autism? I don’t know what he had but he had something mentally wrong with him and Scientology says people with mental illness are degraded and can be cured with Scientology, not medication. Scientology has been fighting psychiatric medications and illnesses for years. That is something they say, not something I am making up or assuming. Maybe you need to do more Scientology research, I have done my fair share and it did not start with Jett’s death.

Jett had epilepsy. Epilepsy is when you have ongoing seizures, which Jett had. Someone that just has 1 seizure is not considered epileptic. I have seen interviews where his parents said they took him off seizure medicine because they thought it harmed his internal organs. There are many seizure medications, most people have to change them or go on more than 1 medication during their lifetime. It is a shame this was not done for Jett, he had Scientology treatments instead. At least that is what his parents have stated. Johns Hopkins could have probably cured him of his seizures as they have done with many other epileptics.

Don’t get mad Cult Awareness. We are on your side; I don’t like Scientology. All I and I think Ronnie C are saying is your research on Scientology is much more useful than any speculations.

I am not mad Leesa and I have tons of empathy for the Travolta’s that they lost a child. However, I have been assaulted and harrassed by a scientologist, I have been locked up in a room by a cult and not allowed to leave. I know all too well the dangers they pose. I also have quite a bit of experience with epilepsy and know that Scientology discourages conventional medical treatments, they think if you have a mental illness or disorder that the only cure is Scientology. They have led the bandwagon on trying to rid the world of ritalin and the psychiatric profession.

Here in Nevada, a mother has been charged with murder because she did not give her diabetic 11-year old daughter insulin. And she died. What makes this any different, a child, with autism (epilepsy) which can be treated isn’t and he dies? This is truly a sad story. But I doubt anything will come of it. (That case in Nevada is: Nevada v. Cheryl Musso). Your different religions don’t give you the right to neglect a child. EVER.

sounds like counterknowledge has a conspiricy theory about the Travoltas to me. Hang on arent we against conspiricy theories.

helo! The babes are here! This is my sexiest site to visit. I make sure I am alone in case I get too hot. Post your favorite link here.

The post Jett Travolta: It is time for the authorities to take Scientology’s quackery seriously first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
335
Scientology: Former employees of Diskeeper sue owner for violation of First Amendment rights https://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/former-employees-of-diskeeper-sue-owner-for-violation-of-first-amendment-rights/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=former-employees-of-diskeeper-sue-owner-for-violation-of-first-amendment-rights Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:11:31 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/former-employees-of-diskeeper-sue-owner-for-violation-of-first-amendment-rights/ Two ex-employees of Diskeeper Corporation have filed a lawsuit against their former employer after they were wrongfully dismissed for refusing to undergo compulsory “religious” indoctrination. Alexander Godelman, the former CIO, and Marc Le Shay allege that the owner of Diskeeper, Craig Jensen, forced them to …

The post Scientology: Former employees of Diskeeper sue owner for violation of First Amendment rights first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
photo_entTwo ex-employees of Diskeeper Corporation have filed a lawsuit against their former employer after they were wrongfully dismissed for refusing to undergo compulsory “religious” indoctrination. Alexander Godelman, the former CIO, and Marc Le Shay allege that the owner of Diskeeper, Craig Jensen, forced them to “study, learn, and apply the fundamental principles of the Scientology religion”. Their refusal to comply with this company requirement (Godelman and Le Shay are both Jewish) led to the termination of their employment on October 16th, 2006. The two plaintiffs allege that the firing was unlawful according to the California Fair Employment and Housing Act, which is supposed to prevent discrimination because of age, race, sex, disability, and religion, among other things.

Clearly, this is a violation of California and even Federal law. But the lawyers for Diskeeper argued that the lawsuit ought to be dismissed in a “motion to strike” filed in December. The motion alleges Godelman and Le Shay “seek to have the Court dismantle Mr. Jensen’s and defendent’s entire way of doing business, as these methods, the Hubbard Management Technology and the Hubbard Study Technology, are supposedly religious”. In a word, yes: they are definitely religious. Study Technology is supposedly a “secular” off-shoot of the “spiritual technology” of the “Church” of Scientology. Yet, in an executive directive issued in 1972, Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote “Study Tech is our primary bridge to Society”. The Study Tech manuals often bear striking similarities to the “Church” of Scientology’s “religious” literature. You can find examples of that in this essay written by Columbia University professor Dr. David Touretzky.

For a time, the insurance company AllState trained it’s managment using Hubbard Management Technology. Scientology concepts such as the “tone scale” and the concept of “up stats” were taught to upper level management from 1988 to 1992. The whole “up stat” concept is what also drives the “religious” aspect of Scientology: in this Hubbard Policy Letter, L. Ron Hubbard wrote:

We are not in the business of being good boys and girls. We’re in the business of going free and getting the org production roaring. Nothing else is of any interest then to Ethics but (a) getting tech in, getting it run and getting it run right and (b) getting production up and the org roaring along. Therefore if a staff member is getting production up by having his own statistic excellent. Ethics sure isn’t interested. But if a staff member isn’t producing, shown by his bad statistic for his post, Ethics is fascinated with his smallest misdemeanor.

A “stat” in Scientology is an individual new recruit to Scientology, so if a Scientology staff member brings in a lot of new recruits, they are considered “up stat” and “[i]n short a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic is up and can’t sneeze without a chop if it’s down”.

With enough proof, plaintiffs Godelman and Le Shay can prove that Diskeeper, which is a major supplier of software to Microsoft, improperly forced “religious” indoctrination on them, violating their First Amendment rights.

But what if Diskeeper is successful in getting the lawsuit dismissed? This could pave the way for an evangelical Christian to require all employees to attend church on Sunday. Or for a Muslim to require all female employees to wear the hijab, regardless of their faith.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

There is an extent to which one wonders whether the “free market of ideas” should be allowed to run its course. If they keep trying to force ideas and training like this on their employees, presumably fewer people will be willing to work for them. In the end, the undesirability of those working conditions will be reflected in the failure of the company….. or that’s the theory, right?

Scientology has long tried to have its cake and eat it too, straddling the line and being a religion when it suited them and not when it didn’t. To try to force anyone to engage in religious indoctrination of any kind is absurd and doesn’t belong in any business. Forcing it on Jews with the history of things being forced on them is even more bad taste.

I hope they take it in the shorts for this.

Clearly a case of scientology bigotry and discrimination.
Anonymous seems to give scientology its Caek and makes them eat it too!

“But the lawyers for Diskeeper argued that the lawsuit ought to be dismissed in a “motion to strike” filed in December.”

The above is not correct. Diskeeper’s motion to strike is only requesting that the court strike certain elements from the plaintiff’s complaint, namely the requests for an injunction that would prohibit Diskeeper from using Hubbard Management Tech in the future. Diskeeper did not move to dismiss.

While a court is unlikely to issue such a broad injunction after all is said and done, it is also unlikely to strike the injunction requests from the complaint before the fact finding stage of the litigation has even commenced.

Being an former employee at this company they function solid administrative and baseline fundamentals. However they do discriminate primarily at an executive and mid-management level. Few if any employees at those positions are non-Scientologists. And all members holding that level of a title are ‘required’ to attend courses at either CC, ‘Ship’, or an affiliated center.
Executive Software or Diskeeper Corp now, should come clean on that out-point. ESI (Diskeeper) will continue to operate utilizing the Tech and rightfully so. I think people would respect that and build strong affinity for this Org. That would result in an upstat and support Craig’s true purpose in the long term.
What’s true, is true.

:)

As another former employee, I agreed with some points made by “Admin Tech” and disagreed with many other. One thing that really bugged me was if one of the scientologists saw you taking an aspirin for a headache, you were sent to Ethics because you must be pts(potential trouble source). This is because of the religions position on using medications for any type of illnes. Because they believe that the mind can control anything, including ailments, they’re against drugs of any kind. What that has to do with running the business is beyond me, unless, of course you’re bringing your relgious beliefs into the workplace. Why not allow the Christians to force you to pray whenever your sales are down, and if you don’t, you’re fired. How about the fact that they make you create a model in clay that describes what your position in he company is without any type of descriptive notes other than labels stating what each object is supposed to be. In order for you to pass and be “fully hatted”, someone with no idea what they’re looking at must be able to figure out what you created. These “clay demos” could take days, even weeks to create because you have to show your relationship to every dept in the entire company. I’ve seen Professionals run out of that place almost crying from having to play with clay or they couldn’t start the job they were hired to do. Oh, and don’t let anyone see you yawn. They will make you word clear (a process where they pick out random words and you give the definition. if you don’t know it, you have to go not just look up the definition, but every defintion listed, plus the derivation, where the work came from) Take all that and you might say,well, if it works why not. Biggest complaint for me was, that the CEO still did whatever the hell he wanted to do, He would bypass people, make decisions without following the procedures everyone else was required to. It ’s a hypocritcal and it pissed a lot of us “wogs” as the scientologists call non-scientologists.

It’s insane

Two ex-employees of Diskeeper Corporation have filed a lawsuit against their former employer after they were wrongfully dismissed for refusing to undergo compulsory “religious” indoctrination. Alexander Godelman, the former CIO, and Marc Le Shay allege that the owner of Diskeeper, Craig Jensen, forced them to “study, learn, and apply the fundamental principles of the Scientology religion”. Their refusal to comply with this company requirement (Godelman and Le Shay are both Jewish) led to the termination of their employment on October 16th, 2006. The two plaintiffs allege that the firing was unlawful according to the California Fair Employment and Housing Act, which is supposed to prevent discrimination because of age, race, sex, disability, and religion, among other things.

Clearly, this is a violation of California and even Federal law. But the lawyers for Diskeeper argued that the lawsuit ought to be dismissed in a “motion to strike” filed in December. The motion alleges Godelman and Le Shay “seek to have the Court dismantle Mr. Jensen’s and defendent’s entire way of doing business, as these methods, the Hubbard Management Technology and the Hubbard Study Technology, are supposedly religious”. In a word, yes: they are definitely religious. Study Technology is supposedly a “secular” off-shoot of the “spiritual technology” of the “Church” of Scientology. Yet, in an executive directive issued in 1972, Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote “Study Tech is our primary bridge to Society”. The Study Tech manuals often bear striking similarities to the “Church” of Scientology’s “religious” literature. You can find examples of that in this essay written by Columbia University professor Dr. David Touretzky.

For a time, the insurance company AllState trained it’s managment using Hubbard Management Technology. Scientology concepts such as the “tone scale” and the concept of “up stats” were taught to upper level management from 1988 to 1992. The whole “up stat” concept is what also drives the “religious” aspect of Scientology: in this Hubbard Policy Letter, L. Ron Hubbard wrote:

We are not in the business of being good boys and girls. We’re in the business of going free and getting the org production roaring. Nothing else is of any interest then to Ethics but (a) getting tech in, getting it run and getting it run right and (b) getting production up and the org roaring along. Therefore if a staff member is getting production up by having his own statistic excellent. Ethics sure isn’t interested. But if a staff member isn’t producing, shown by his bad statistic for his post, Ethics is fascinated with his smallest misdemeanor.

A “stat” in Scientology is an individual new recruit to Scientology, so if a Scientology staff member brings in a lot of new recruits, they are considered “up stat” and “[i]n short a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic is up and can’t sneeze without a chop if it’s down”.

With enough proof, plaintiffs Godelman and Le Shay can prove that Diskeeper, which is a major supplier of software to Microsoft, improperly forced “religious” indoctrination on them, violating their First Amendment rights.

But what if Diskeeper is successful in getting the lawsuit dismissed? This could pave the way for an evangelical Christian to require all employees to attend church on Sunday. Or for a Muslim to require all female employees to wear the hijab, regardless of their faith.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

There is an extent to which one wonders whether the “free market of ideas” should be allowed to run its course. If they keep trying to force ideas and training like this on their employees, presumably fewer people will be willing to work for them. In the end, the undesirability of those working conditions will be reflected in the failure of the company….. or that’s the theory, right?

Scientology has long tried to have its cake and eat it too, straddling the line and being a religion when it suited them and not when it didn’t. To try to force anyone to engage in religious indoctrination of any kind is absurd and doesn’t belong in any business. Forcing it on Jews with the history of things being forced on them is even more bad taste.

I hope they take it in the shorts for this.

Clearly a case of scientology bigotry and discrimination.
Anonymous seems to give scientology its Caek and makes them eat it too!

“But the lawyers for Diskeeper argued that the lawsuit ought to be dismissed in a “motion to strike” filed in December.”

The above is not correct. Diskeeper’s motion to strike is only requesting that the court strike certain elements from the plaintiff’s complaint, namely the requests for an injunction that would prohibit Diskeeper from using Hubbard Management Tech in the future. Diskeeper did not move to dismiss.

While a court is unlikely to issue such a broad injunction after all is said and done, it is also unlikely to strike the injunction requests from the complaint before the fact finding stage of the litigation has even commenced.

Being an former employee at this company they function solid administrative and baseline fundamentals. However they do discriminate primarily at an executive and mid-management level. Few if any employees at those positions are non-Scientologists. And all members holding that level of a title are ‘required’ to attend courses at either CC, ‘Ship’, or an affiliated center.
Executive Software or Diskeeper Corp now, should come clean on that out-point. ESI (Diskeeper) will continue to operate utilizing the Tech and rightfully so. I think people would respect that and build strong affinity for this Org. That would result in an upstat and support Craig’s true purpose in the long term.
What’s true, is true.

As another former employee, I agreed with some points made by “Admin Tech” and disagreed with many other. One thing that really bugged me was if one of the scientologists saw you taking an aspirin for a headache, you were sent to Ethics because you must be pts(potential trouble source). This is because of the religions position on using medications for any type of illnes. Because they believe that the mind can control anything, including ailments, they’re against drugs of any kind. What that has to do with running the business is beyond me, unless, of course you’re bringing your relgious beliefs into the workplace. Why not allow the Christians to force you to pray whenever your sales are down, and if you don’t, you’re fired. How about the fact that they make you create a model in clay that describes what your position in he company is without any type of descriptive notes other than labels stating what each object is supposed to be. In order for you to pass and be “fully hatted”, someone with no idea what they’re looking at must be able to figure out what you created. These “clay demos” could take days, even weeks to create because you have to show your relationship to every dept in the entire company. I’ve seen Professionals run out of that place almost crying from having to play with clay or they couldn’t start the job they were hired to do. Oh, and don’t let anyone see you yawn. They will make you word clear (a process where they pick out random words and you give the definition. if you don’t know it, you have to go not just look up the definition, but every defintion listed, plus the derivation, where the work came from) Take all that and you might say,well, if it works why not. Biggest complaint for me was, that the CEO still did whatever the hell he wanted to do, He would bypass people, make decisions without following the procedures everyone else was required to. It ’s a hypocritcal and it pissed a lot of us “wogs” as the scientologists call non-scientologists.

It’s insane

The post Scientology: Former employees of Diskeeper sue owner for violation of First Amendment rights first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
256
Scientology 101: Front Groups, or The Lipstick On The Pig https://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/scientology-101-front-groups-or-the-lipstick-on-the-pig/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=scientology-101-front-groups-or-the-lipstick-on-the-pig Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:12:58 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/scientology-101-front-groups-or-the-lipstick-on-the-pig/   “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” — Charles Baudelaire  The video above is a Public Service Announcement from “Youth For Human Rights International”. Youth For Human Rights certainly seems like a laudable initiative at first glance, …

The post Scientology 101: Front Groups, or The Lipstick On The Pig first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
 

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
— Charles Baudelaire 

The video above is a Public Service Announcement from “Youth For Human Rights International”. Youth For Human Rights certainly seems like a laudable initiative at first glance, doesn’t it? In an age where young people are more apathetic than ever, it’s encouraging to see them standing up for human rights. The PSA has a catchy beat and a positive message. Why then am I including this video as an example of the devil’s age-old trick?

Because this organisation is a front group for the Church of Scientology. Its founder, Mary Shuttleworth, is a Scientologist and the organization is mostly staffed by Scientologists.

Many young people unwittingly join YHRI, not realising it is a front group for Scientology. Their good intentions to make the world a better place are misused by people who intend to push L. Ron Hubbard’s “technology”. YHRI was been established with the sole purpose of drawing young people into Scientology.

Why the furore over Will Smith’s new private school?

Many people must be wondering about the controversy surrounding the New Village Academy, a school set up by actor Will Smith and his wife Jada. The New Village Academy intends to employ a lot of educational approaches in this new type of school. But one stands out the most: the employment of “Scientology Study Technology”. Since this revelation came out in the media, Jacqueline Olivier, the principal of New Village Academy, and Will Smith have both strongly insisted the new school is not a Scientology school. But why is Study Tech controversial?

Study tech is founded on 3 principles: Using visual images to teach concepts, breaking down complex concepts, and using the dictionaries to find the meanings for unfamiliar words. Seems reasonable enough, given that’s how children are taught in the first few grades of elementary school. But Study Tech is unavoidably tainted with Scientology related teachings. There have been numerous attempts to slip Study Tech into public schools as well, which is much worse than Will Smith’s private school employing Study Tech. Study Tech in itself is just a concept, not a front group. The relevant front group that pushes it in public schools is Applied Scholastics, which is a misnomer.

Drug pushers of another kind: Narconon

In an age of widespread drug use and abuse, there is a desperate need for rehabilitation clinics all over the world. The “Church” of Scientology has recognised this need, and sought to capitalise on it. The Church started Narconon in 1966 and it was run by the Guardian’s Office, the “Church” of Scientology’s intelligence and public relations wing, until 1980. To this day, Narconon denies its ties with the “Church” but this document shows that Narconon is indeed a front group of the “Church”. If you want more recent proof, here is an interview Tom Cruise gave to Der Spiegel in 2005:

Cruise: I’m a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It’s called Narconon.

SPIEGEL: That’s not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science.

Cruise: You don’t understand what I am saying. It’s a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.

SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that.

While developing his drug “therapy”, L. Ron Hubbard observed that giving a large dose of niacin to a person causes the skin to looked flushed: blood vessels dilate and release histamine, which is the same physiological reaction that occurs when someone suffers from a rash or an allergy. Flushing of the skin is also a sign of toxicity, and the levels of niacin that Narconon gives to clients is very high. The tolerable upper intake level for adults is 35 mg, but Narconon gives their clients up to 500 mg/day, increasing each dose by 3mg daily.

Hubbard theorized, wrongly, that drugs, including water-soluble ones, can be stored in fat cells, and that niacin works to release fat from adipose tissue into the bloodstream, thereby “flushing out” drug residue from the body. This idea has been conclusively discredited. Hubbard also theorized that large doses of niacin can flush out radiation. But niacin can do nothing to the free radicals in the body caused by radiation. There are many examples of L. Ron Hubbard’s poor grasp of nuclear physics, and science in general – they are too numerous to list here. Despite this, Narconon is being used to “bridge masses of people into Scientology”.

CCHR: An Industry of Fear and Paranoia

Another misnomer for a front group name is the Citizen’s Commission on Human Rights. The CCHR was established in 1969 by the “Church” of Scientology and non-Scientologist psychiatry critic Thomas Szasz. Since then, it has been spreading lies and misinformation about psychiatry and psychology. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote of psychiatrists:

“Crimes of extortion, mayhem and murder are done daily by these men in the name of ‘practice’ and ‘treatment’. There is not one institutional psychiatrist alive who, by ordinary criminal law, could not be arraigned and convicted of extortion, mayhem and murder. Our files are full of evidence on them.” [SOURCE]

The CCHR formed a website called PsychCrime, which tracks down crimes committed by individual mental health professionals. Granted, crimes are committed by individual psychiatrists, psychologists, and mental health professionals, but the CCHR takes individual crimes as evidence that the whole professions is “evil”. In 2005, the CCHR debuted its notorious “Psychiatry: An Industry of Death” museum exhibit, which blames psychiatry for everything from Hitler and the Holocaust to Kurt Cobain’s suicide.

The CCHR is one of the worst Scientology front groups because it uses lies and half-truths to instill paranoia not only into Scientologists, but also into the general public. It is this paranoia that led to the death of Elli Perkins by her schizophrenic son Jeremy. It also eventually killed Lisa McPherson, who died in the care of Scientologists.

More focus needed

There are lots of other front groups not mentioned here, but a quick Google search will bring up complete listings of Scientology front groups. So far, the monthly Anonymous protests have dealt with the Church of Scientology’s tax-exempt status, the disconnection policy, the fair game policy, and the Church of Scientology’s elite Sea Organization. The upcoming protest on July 12th deals with the subversive activities of OSA. Scientology’s front groups deserve focus because they are the “secular” fronts of Scientology. Their ties with Scientology are not always obvious. More public scrutiny is needed.

[Author's note: a version of this article originally appeared on Glosslip in July 2008.]

If you enjoyed this post, why not subscribe to our RSS feed or follow us on Twitter? You might also consider making a donation to the Counterknowledge.com fighting fund.

free radicals are dangerous because they can cause cancer.’`~

free radicals are the number stuff that causes aging and kills our body slowly but surely:`-

free radicals can really damage your cells, that is why i always take antioxidants ..~

 

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
— Charles Baudelaire 

The video above is a Public Service Announcement from “Youth For Human Rights International”. Youth For Human Rights certainly seems like a laudable initiative at first glance, doesn’t it? In an age where young people are more apathetic than ever, it’s encouraging to see them standing up for human rights. The PSA has a catchy beat and a positive message. Why then am I including this video as an example of the devil’s age-old trick?

Because this organisation is a front group for the Church of Scientology. Its founder, Mary Shuttleworth, is a Scientologist and the organization is mostly staffed by Scientologists.

Many young people unwittingly join YHRI, not realising it is a front group for Scientology. Their good intentions to make the world a better place are misused by people who intend to push L. Ron Hubbard’s “technology”. YHRI was been established with the sole purpose of drawing young people into Scientology.

Why the furore over Will Smith’s new private school?

Many people must be wondering about the controversy surrounding the New Village Academy, a school set up by actor Will Smith and his wife Jada. The New Village Academy intends to employ a lot of educational approaches in this new type of school. But one stands out the most: the employment of “Scientology Study Technology”. Since this revelation came out in the media, Jacqueline Olivier, the principal of New Village Academy, and Will Smith have both strongly insisted the new school is not a Scientology school. But why is Study Tech controversial?

Study tech is founded on 3 principles: Using visual images to teach concepts, breaking down complex concepts, and using the dictionaries to find the meanings for unfamiliar words. Seems reasonable enough, given that’s how children are taught in the first few grades of elementary school. But Study Tech is unavoidably tainted with Scientology related teachings. There have been numerous attempts to slip Study Tech into public schools as well, which is much worse than Will Smith’s private school employing Study Tech. Study Tech in itself is just a concept, not a front group. The relevant front group that pushes it in public schools is Applied Scholastics, which is a misnomer.

Drug pushers of another kind: Narconon

In an age of widespread drug use and abuse, there is a desperate need for rehabilitation clinics all over the world. The “Church” of Scientology has recognised this need, and sought to capitalise on it. The Church started Narconon in 1966 and it was run by the Guardian’s Office, the “Church” of Scientology’s intelligence and public relations wing, until 1980. To this day, Narconon denies its ties with the “Church” but this document shows that Narconon is indeed a front group of the “Church”. If you want more recent proof, here is an interview Tom Cruise gave to Der Spiegel in 2005:

Cruise: I’m a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It’s called Narconon.

SPIEGEL: That’s not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science.

Cruise: You don’t understand what I am saying. It’s a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.

SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that.

While developing his drug “therapy”, L. Ron Hubbard observed that giving a large dose of niacin to a person causes the skin to looked flushed: blood vessels dilate and release histamine, which is the same physiological reaction that occurs when someone suffers from a rash or an allergy. Flushing of the skin is also a sign of toxicity, and the levels of niacin that Narconon gives to clients is very high. The tolerable upper intake level for adults is 35 mg, but Narconon gives their clients up to 500 mg/day, increasing each dose by 3mg daily.

Hubbard theorized, wrongly, that drugs, including water-soluble ones, can be stored in fat cells, and that niacin works to release fat from adipose tissue into the bloodstream, thereby “flushing out” drug residue from the body. This idea has been conclusively discredited. Hubbard also theorized that large doses of niacin can flush out radiation. But niacin can do nothing to the free radicals in the body caused by radiation. There are many examples of L. Ron Hubbard’s poor grasp of nuclear physics, and science in general – they are too numerous to list here. Despite this, Narconon is being used to “bridge masses of people into Scientology”.

CCHR: An Industry of Fear and Paranoia

Another misnomer for a front group name is the Citizen’s Commission on Human Rights. The CCHR was established in 1969 by the “Church” of Scientology and non-Scientologist psychiatry critic Thomas Szasz. Since then, it has been spreading lies and misinformation about psychiatry and psychology. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote of psychiatrists:

“Crimes of extortion, mayhem and murder are done daily by these men in the name of ‘practice’ and ‘treatment’. There is not one institutional psychiatrist alive who, by ordinary criminal law, could not be arraigned and convicted of extortion, mayhem and murder. Our files are full of evidence on them.” [SOURCE]

The CCHR formed a website called PsychCrime, which tracks down crimes committed by individual mental health professionals. Granted, crimes are committed by individual psychiatrists, psychologists, and mental health professionals, but the CCHR takes individual crimes as evidence that the whole professions is “evil”. In 2005, the CCHR debuted its notorious “Psychiatry: An Industry of Death” museum exhibit, which blames psychiatry for everything from Hitler and the Holocaust to Kurt Cobain’s suicide.

The CCHR is one of the worst Scientology front groups because it uses lies and half-truths to instill paranoia not only into Scientologists, but also into the general public. It is this paranoia that led to the death of Elli Perkins by her schizophrenic son Jeremy. It also eventually killed Lisa McPherson, who died in the care of Scientologists.

More focus needed

There are lots of other front groups not mentioned here, but a quick Google search will bring up complete listings of Scientology front groups. So far, the monthly Anonymous protests have dealt with the Church of Scientology’s tax-exempt status, the disconnection policy, the fair game policy, and the Church of Scientology’s elite Sea Organization. The upcoming protest on July 12th deals with the subversive activities of OSA. Scientology’s front groups deserve focus because they are the “secular” fronts of Scientology. Their ties with Scientology are not always obvious. More public scrutiny is needed.

[Author's note: a version of this article originally appeared on Glosslip in July 2008.]

If you enjoyed this post, why not subscribe to our RSS feed or follow us on Twitter? You might also consider making a donation to the Counterknowledge.com fighting fund.

free radicals are dangerous because they can cause cancer.’`~

free radicals are the number stuff that causes aging and kills our body slowly but surely:`-

free radicals can really damage your cells, that is why i always take antioxidants ..~

The post Scientology 101: Front Groups, or The Lipstick On The Pig first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
290
U.S. Court rules Orthodox Jews cannot use the same tax deductions as Scientologists https://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/us-court-rules-orthodox-jews-cannot-use-the-same-tax-deductions-as-scientologists/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=us-court-rules-orthodox-jews-cannot-use-the-same-tax-deductions-as-scientologists Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:14:01 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/us-court-rules-orthodox-jews-cannot-use-the-same-tax-deductions-as-scientologists/ An American court ruled this week that an Orthodox Jewish couple could not use tax deductions that Scientologists can use (deductions they obtained by way of a secret 1993 agreement with the Internal Revenue Service). In the case Sklar v. Commissioner of the IRS, Michael …

The post U.S. Court rules Orthodox Jews cannot use the same tax deductions as Scientologists first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
An American court ruled this week that an Orthodox Jewish couple could not use tax deductions that Scientologists can use (deductions they obtained by way of a secret 1993 agreement with the Internal Revenue Service). In the case Sklar v. Commissioner of the IRS, Michael and Marla Sklar tried to claim their childrens’ tuition for their Jewish day school as a tax deduction but their argument was rejected by the US Ninth Circuit Court because it violates the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states in the first sentence that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”.

The Sklars’ main argument was that section 170(f)(8) and 6115 of the IRS code authorized deductions for donations made to religious institutions if they provided “intangible religious benefits”. Scientologists can claim deductions for “religious” services provided by the “Church”, and the Sklars argued that they too should be allowed to utilize this benefit. If the “Church” of Scientology is allowed to violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, then they should be able to do the same thing in the name of consistency. The Ninth Circuit Court rejected this argument because “[t]o conclude otherwise would be tantamount to rewriting the Tax Code, disregarding Supreme Court precedent, only to reach a conclusion directly at odds with the Establishment Clause — all in the name of the Establishment Clause.”.

The court ruled wisely in favor of not violating the First Amendment, which unequivocally states that no religion should have an advantage over the other. But what to say about the “Church” of Scientology’s special privilege, which they allegedly obtained by shady means. Three years after the “Church” was established by L. Ron Hubbard in 1953, the IRS gave it tax-exempt status. However, in 1967, their tax-exempt status was stripped away because it was determined that the activities of the “Church” were commercial, and several US courts agreed. This meant war between the IRS and the “Church”, which continued for 25 years.

In 1973, L. Ron Hubbard initiated Operation Snow White against the governments of several countries, including the United States. The main target of “Project Hunter”, the American branch of Snow White was the IRS. Operation Snow White called for the infiltration of the IRS and other US government agencies in order to steal documents related to L. Ron Hubbard and the “Church” of Scientology. Eventually, several Scientologists, including L. Ron Hubbard’s wife Mary Sue, were caught, and the FBI invaded Scientology offices in Los Angeles and Washington DC. In 1979, eleven Scientologists, including Mary Sue Hubbard, were sentenced to five years in prison. That did not stop the war against the IRS. Private investigators were hired by the cult to dig up dirt on various IRS officials, and in many cases, they found enough damning evidence to blackmail these officials.

Finally, in 1993, then IRS Comissioner Fred Goldberg met with current “Church” leader David Miscavige and reached an agreement that would end all lawsuits against the IRS by the “Church” of Scientology: the war was finally over. Attempts by various IRS watchdogs to get the IRS to disclose this agreement were unsuccessful, even though by law the IRS has to release it.

The question to ask is: why is a pseudo-religion started by a charlatan solely to make money allowed these special privileges, while legitimate religions are not? This IRS agreement violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment by making it a de facto “established” religion. It was wise on the part of the Ninth Circuit Court to reject Michael and Marla Sklar’s argument, but the “Church” of Scientology must be called out for this circumvention of the US Constitution.

Let me leave you with a quote from L. Ron Hubbard:

“Somebody some day will say ‘this is illegal’. By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not.”

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

You should mention that the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in Hernandez v. Commissioner, 490 U.S. 680 (1989) that payment for services in Scientology (so-called fixed donations) were not found deductible. So it seems the agreement is in violation of a supreme court decision.

Thank you for that. The problem with that argument is old Supreme Court rulings can be struck down by a newer Supreme Court ruling. For example, Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education. Now that the IRS has given the Scientologists unconstititutional tax deductions, a new Supreme Court ruling must invalidate it.

But who has the stamina to sue the “Church” of Scientology and the IRS all the way to the Supreme Court? Especially with the “Church”’s ‘Fair Game Doctrine’?

There hasn’t been a supreme court ruling on this matter since the Hernandez v. Commissioner, right? If the IRS changed their policy tomorrow to conform with the law, and the CoS took them to court for it, the IRS could still rely on Hernandez v. Commissioner, and the CoS would have to try to get Hernandez v. Commissioner overturned, right?

The problem of course would be if the agreement was terminated in a lawful manner, and what happens to the lawsuits and the potential blackmail which the agreement put an end to.

If the IRS won’t enforce Hernandez v. Commissioner, then maybe someone other who have standing should sue? But who wants to sue to remove another group’s tax break rather than sue to get the tax break for themselves? Maybe if the Sklars join other parents in a similar situation?

I suppose the legal batter then would be over standing. Since it’s a tax issue rather than an issue of discretionary spending, I think they may have standing as tax payers according.

The quickest approach might be if Congress or the President forces the IRS to comply.

I’m just picturing what the well-organized, funded, and very well educated Orthodox Jewish world would do to Scientology if that so-called church ever tried that Fair Game nonsense with them.

See the 9/11 picture in the post below for a visual representation of what would happen to Scientology.

Easy there Moses. The job of preaching to people what the “legitimate” religions are has already been filled by plenty of crazies crazier than scientologists.

How can I take the writer of this article seriously when he exhibits an obvious bias against scientologists? “pseudo-religion”? Really? Are their claims really more absurd then Moses getting the 10 commandements from a burning bush, or an “immaculate” conception? What about parting the red sea, or the rising of Jebus?

A cult, is what members of a bigger cult, call a smaller cult competing for the same donation dollars. People really need to look in the backyard of their own bullcrap religions, and see them for what they are. Tools for pacifying and herding the masses of idiots who refuse to think for themselves. Has anyone tried to compare the actions of those real/true/authentic (man that is just funny) religions and their followers versus scientologists? Who are the bigger fanatics?

Scientologists are fools, but so is everyone bowing down to any other bed-time story passed on by savages who killed with abandon, and slept with their own brothers and sisters. The fact that people willingly belong to an identifiable group, and chose to believe in the same thing, makes it just as valid a religion as any. To single them, or anyone else, out for ridicule because in your opinion it’s not “real” is intellectually dishonest, and inherently uncivilized. But I guess on the internet, that’s not that big a concern.

Max, your are either a clam or deliberately ignorant of the reality of the true danger Scientology poses to the public at large. I’m willing to go with either.

Your argument about other religions doing things as bad as, if not worse than Scientology is not only an old argument, but a lazy one. So other people have done terrible things in the past in the name of their religion. What’s your point? Keep in mind the vast difference in the social and political structure from one thousand years ago and compare it to today. The church was considered the ultimate authority in all things divine and anyone who questioned them was condemned. Over time, people recognized that the people who lead the church were human, too. They made mistakes and didn’t always act in the best interest of their congregants and the general public.

In what way does that diminish the impact of the atrocities committed by the COS today and how can you even begin to compare other religions PAST crimes to the COS’s present and CONTINUING CRIMES when you obviously have shown that you haven’t read up ANYTHING on the COS?

The Sklar case concerns a deduction of the religious portion of tuition paid to a religious school, which Sklar claims as the equivalent of a donation for Scientology training at a Scientology church.

Sklar states that the “IRS’ position that religious education (other than for members of the Church of Scientology) is not an “intangible religious benefit”, and that no portion of any religious school tuition (outside the Church of Scientology) is deductible, is very well known among religious schools.”

Payments for Scientology training (whether paid for an adult or child) are deductible when paid to a Scientology Church. Only those courses listed the Scientology “Bridge to Total Freedom”‘ qualify for a charitable donation. The same training, delivered by an individual practitioner of Scientology (or at a school), would not qualify as a charitable contribution.

In the Sklar case, the tuition was paid to a religious school providing religious instruction as well secular education. Sklar failed to establish the total amount paid for his children’s education exceeded the value of the secular portion of that education. If Sklar donated to his synagogue specifically to support religious education in which his children participated, it would in all likelihood be just as deductible as a donation for Scientology training. If Sklar were a Methodist whose children attended Sunday School, his donations to the church to support their educational activities would also be deductible.

Your claim of special privileges afforded to Scientology and not other legitimate religions is unsupportable as a blanket assertion. For all legitimate (and some less than legitimate) religions, donations to their respective house of worship (such as churches or synagogues, but not religious schools) for services which confer an intangible religious benefit are deductible.

Max –

It may be your favorite topic of conversation, how religions should not be allowed to exist and how they’re all “bullcrap” and how anything which supports any religion is automatically bad.

In that case, you might want to find one of the many, many places on the net where this is the topic of conversation. However, here we are discussing a quite different topic, which is how ONE “religion” is being given preferential treatment over any others. This happens to be a violation of the US Constitution.

Why are you trying to drag the conversation off its topic and onto another topic?

If you can’t understand why Scientology would be more deserving of the title ‘pseudo-religion’ than any other, it’s not a sign of wisdom on your part, but of ignorance of Scientology. You may choose to jeer at and look down upon those who founded Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Shinto, etc. and that is your choice. But when we look at the founders of those religions, we do not find direct evidence of the founders asserting that their belief system is NOT a religion just a few years before changing their minds and declaring it is a religion after all. We do not find the founders writing that the choice to seek the status of a religion is a matter purely for accountants and solicitors. If we did, then those religions would be subject to the same derision as Scientology.

Goto Change.gov and vote in Obama’s citizen Briefing Book to Revoke the Tax Exempt Status of the Church of Scientology

http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/ideas/viewIdea.apexp?id=087800000004rbZ

An American court ruled this week that an Orthodox Jewish couple could not use tax deductions that Scientologists can use (deductions they obtained by way of a secret 1993 agreement with the Internal Revenue Service). In the case Sklar v. Commissioner of the IRS, Michael and Marla Sklar tried to claim their childrens’ tuition for their Jewish day school as a tax deduction but their argument was rejected by the US Ninth Circuit Court because it violates the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states in the first sentence that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”.

The Sklars’ main argument was that section 170(f)(8) and 6115 of the IRS code authorized deductions for donations made to religious institutions if they provided “intangible religious benefits”. Scientologists can claim deductions for “religious” services provided by the “Church”, and the Sklars argued that they too should be allowed to utilize this benefit. If the “Church” of Scientology is allowed to violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, then they should be able to do the same thing in the name of consistency. The Ninth Circuit Court rejected this argument because “[t]o conclude otherwise would be tantamount to rewriting the Tax Code, disregarding Supreme Court precedent, only to reach a conclusion directly at odds with the Establishment Clause — all in the name of the Establishment Clause.”.

The court ruled wisely in favor of not violating the First Amendment, which unequivocally states that no religion should have an advantage over the other. But what to say about the “Church” of Scientology’s special privilege, which they allegedly obtained by shady means. Three years after the “Church” was established by L. Ron Hubbard in 1953, the IRS gave it tax-exempt status. However, in 1967, their tax-exempt status was stripped away because it was determined that the activities of the “Church” were commercial, and several US courts agreed. This meant war between the IRS and the “Church”, which continued for 25 years.

In 1973, L. Ron Hubbard initiated Operation Snow White against the governments of several countries, including the United States. The main target of “Project Hunter”, the American branch of Snow White was the IRS. Operation Snow White called for the infiltration of the IRS and other US government agencies in order to steal documents related to L. Ron Hubbard and the “Church” of Scientology. Eventually, several Scientologists, including L. Ron Hubbard’s wife Mary Sue, were caught, and the FBI invaded Scientology offices in Los Angeles and Washington DC. In 1979, eleven Scientologists, including Mary Sue Hubbard, were sentenced to five years in prison. That did not stop the war against the IRS. Private investigators were hired by the cult to dig up dirt on various IRS officials, and in many cases, they found enough damning evidence to blackmail these officials.

Finally, in 1993, then IRS Comissioner Fred Goldberg met with current “Church” leader David Miscavige and reached an agreement that would end all lawsuits against the IRS by the “Church” of Scientology: the war was finally over. Attempts by various IRS watchdogs to get the IRS to disclose this agreement were unsuccessful, even though by law the IRS has to release it.

The question to ask is: why is a pseudo-religion started by a charlatan solely to make money allowed these special privileges, while legitimate religions are not? This IRS agreement violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment by making it a de facto “established” religion. It was wise on the part of the Ninth Circuit Court to reject Michael and Marla Sklar’s argument, but the “Church” of Scientology must be called out for this circumvention of the US Constitution.

Let me leave you with a quote from L. Ron Hubbard:

“Somebody some day will say ‘this is illegal’. By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not.”

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

You should mention that the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in Hernandez v. Commissioner, 490 U.S. 680 (1989) that payment for services in Scientology (so-called fixed donations) were not found deductible. So it seems the agreement is in violation of a supreme court decision.

Thank you for that. The problem with that argument is old Supreme Court rulings can be struck down by a newer Supreme Court ruling. For example, Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education. Now that the IRS has given the Scientologists unconstititutional tax deductions, a new Supreme Court ruling must invalidate it.

But who has the stamina to sue the “Church” of Scientology and the IRS all the way to the Supreme Court? Especially with the “Church”’s ‘Fair Game Doctrine’?

There hasn’t been a supreme court ruling on this matter since the Hernandez v. Commissioner, right? If the IRS changed their policy tomorrow to conform with the law, and the CoS took them to court for it, the IRS could still rely on Hernandez v. Commissioner, and the CoS would have to try to get Hernandez v. Commissioner overturned, right?

The problem of course would be if the agreement was terminated in a lawful manner, and what happens to the lawsuits and the potential blackmail which the agreement put an end to.

If the IRS won’t enforce Hernandez v. Commissioner, then maybe someone other who have standing should sue? But who wants to sue to remove another group’s tax break rather than sue to get the tax break for themselves? Maybe if the Sklars join other parents in a similar situation?

I suppose the legal batter then would be over standing. Since it’s a tax issue rather than an issue of discretionary spending, I think they may have standing as tax payers according.

The quickest approach might be if Congress or the President forces the IRS to comply.

I’m just picturing what the well-organized, funded, and very well educated Orthodox Jewish world would do to Scientology if that so-called church ever tried that Fair Game nonsense with them.

See the 9/11 picture in the post below for a visual representation of what would happen to Scientology.

Easy there Moses. The job of preaching to people what the “legitimate” religions are has already been filled by plenty of crazies crazier than scientologists.

How can I take the writer of this article seriously when he exhibits an obvious bias against scientologists? “pseudo-religion”? Really? Are their claims really more absurd then Moses getting the 10 commandements from a burning bush, or an “immaculate” conception? What about parting the red sea, or the rising of Jebus?

A cult, is what members of a bigger cult, call a smaller cult competing for the same donation dollars. People really need to look in the backyard of their own bullcrap religions, and see them for what they are. Tools for pacifying and herding the masses of idiots who refuse to think for themselves. Has anyone tried to compare the actions of those real/true/authentic (man that is just funny) religions and their followers versus scientologists? Who are the bigger fanatics?

Scientologists are fools, but so is everyone bowing down to any other bed-time story passed on by savages who killed with abandon, and slept with their own brothers and sisters. The fact that people willingly belong to an identifiable group, and chose to believe in the same thing, makes it just as valid a religion as any. To single them, or anyone else, out for ridicule because in your opinion it’s not “real” is intellectually dishonest, and inherently uncivilized. But I guess on the internet, that’s not that big a concern.

Max, your are either a clam or deliberately ignorant of the reality of the true danger Scientology poses to the public at large. I’m willing to go with either.

Your argument about other religions doing things as bad as, if not worse than Scientology is not only an old argument, but a lazy one. So other people have done terrible things in the past in the name of their religion. What’s your point? Keep in mind the vast difference in the social and political structure from one thousand years ago and compare it to today. The church was considered the ultimate authority in all things divine and anyone who questioned them was condemned. Over time, people recognized that the people who lead the church were human, too. They made mistakes and didn’t always act in the best interest of their congregants and the general public.

In what way does that diminish the impact of the atrocities committed by the COS today and how can you even begin to compare other religions PAST crimes to the COS’s present and CONTINUING CRIMES when you obviously have shown that you haven’t read up ANYTHING on the COS?

The Sklar case concerns a deduction of the religious portion of tuition paid to a religious school, which Sklar claims as the equivalent of a donation for Scientology training at a Scientology church.

Sklar states that the “IRS’ position that religious education (other than for members of the Church of Scientology) is not an “intangible religious benefit”, and that no portion of any religious school tuition (outside the Church of Scientology) is deductible, is very well known among religious schools.”

Payments for Scientology training (whether paid for an adult or child) are deductible when paid to a Scientology Church. Only those courses listed the Scientology “Bridge to Total Freedom”‘ qualify for a charitable donation. The same training, delivered by an individual practitioner of Scientology (or at a school), would not qualify as a charitable contribution.

In the Sklar case, the tuition was paid to a religious school providing religious instruction as well secular education. Sklar failed to establish the total amount paid for his children’s education exceeded the value of the secular portion of that education. If Sklar donated to his synagogue specifically to support religious education in which his children participated, it would in all likelihood be just as deductible as a donation for Scientology training. If Sklar were a Methodist whose children attended Sunday School, his donations to the church to support their educational activities would also be deductible.

Your claim of special privileges afforded to Scientology and not other legitimate religions is unsupportable as a blanket assertion. For all legitimate (and some less than legitimate) religions, donations to their respective house of worship (such as churches or synagogues, but not religious schools) for services which confer an intangible religious benefit are deductible.

Max –

It may be your favorite topic of conversation, how religions should not be allowed to exist and how they’re all “bullcrap” and how anything which supports any religion is automatically bad.

In that case, you might want to find one of the many, many places on the net where this is the topic of conversation. However, here we are discussing a quite different topic, which is how ONE “religion” is being given preferential treatment over any others. This happens to be a violation of the US Constitution.

Why are you trying to drag the conversation off its topic and onto another topic?

If you can’t understand why Scientology would be more deserving of the title ‘pseudo-religion’ than any other, it’s not a sign of wisdom on your part, but of ignorance of Scientology. You may choose to jeer at and look down upon those who founded Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Shinto, etc. and that is your choice. But when we look at the founders of those religions, we do not find direct evidence of the founders asserting that their belief system is NOT a religion just a few years before changing their minds and declaring it is a religion after all. We do not find the founders writing that the choice to seek the status of a religion is a matter purely for accountants and solicitors. If we did, then those religions would be subject to the same derision as Scientology.

Goto Change.gov and vote in Obama’s citizen Briefing Book to Revoke the Tax Exempt Status of the Church of Scientology

http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/ideas/viewIdea.apexp?id=087800000004rbZ

The post U.S. Court rules Orthodox Jews cannot use the same tax deductions as Scientologists first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
306
Scientology 101: How the Church of Scientology uses ‘lawfare’ to silence its critics https://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/scientology-101-scientology-and-lawfare/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=scientology-101-scientology-and-lawfare Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:13:01 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/scientology-101-scientology-and-lawfare/ [Note: if you're using Internet Explorer, er, don't. But seriously – you might need to click here to see the video] In the post 9/11 era, new terms and new ideas to describe how war is being fought today have emerged in the media. One …

The post Scientology 101: How the Church of Scientology uses ‘lawfare’ to silence its critics first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>

[Note: if you're using Internet Explorer, er, don't. But seriously – you might need to click here to see the video]

In the post 9/11 era, new terms and new ideas to describe how war is being fought today have emerged in the media. One such term is “lawfare”. On page 55 of the book Unrestricted Warfare, authors Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui call for the use of “international law warfare” (seizing the earliest opportunity to set up regulations) along with a set of other types of warfare that an enemy with more firepower cannot withstand for long. Since 2001, the term has been used to describe how individual supporters of terrorism have tried to silence those who expose them. Take the case of Khalid bin Mahfouz, the Saudi Arabian billionaire who sued American author Rachel Ehrenfeld for libel in the UK because in her book Funding Evil she named him as a major financial contributor to terrorist organisations. British libel laws place the burden of proof on the defendant, and given Dr. Ehrenfeld’s limited resources – even with government documents as proof – she lost. By contrast, in 2008, Governor George Pataki of New York signed Rachel’s Law, which grants protection to American citizens being sued by ”libel tourists”. The laws of the USA and the UK differ radically when it comes to freedom of speech.

“Lawfare” is the use of a country’s legal system by an individual or corporation to utterly crush their adversaries. The term is currently used in the context of the War on Terror, but the definition can be broadened to include any other individual or group who tries to ruin an adversary in court – including the “Church” of Scientology.

“We are going to sue your ass… and your balls!”

Earlier this year, the Canadian magazine Maisonneuve published an article on long-time Scientology critic Gerry Armstrong, detailing the sustained harassment campaign against him. The author of the article goes so far as to call him Scientology’s Salman Rushdie because of the severity of the Church’s harassment. Armstrong was once in the inner circle of Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and was asked to help author Omar Garrison to compile a biography of Hubbard. When he found out the innumerable “discrepancies” in the official version of Hubbard’s life story, Armstrong declined to continue work on the project.

When he left the cult in 1981, Armstrong did so in possession of “boxes of material” on L. Ron Hubbard. In 1986, he signed a gag agreement with the Church of Scientology, but couldn’t remain silent. Since he has broken that agreement, the Church has sued him many times in the state of California. He fled to his hometown of Chilliwack, Canada but, even there, Gerry Armstrong gets no rest.

“To get PC incarcerated in a mental institution or jail, or at least to hit her so hard that she drops her attacks”

In 1968, a young author from New York wrote an expose about Scientology, which later was expanded into her 1971 release The Scandal of Scientology. At the time, Paulette Cooper could not have known that this would bring about a campaign to destroy her. The Church of Scientology even went so far as to frame her for bomb threats the Church is thought to have itself with stationary stolen from Cooper’s apartment. Forensic evidence cleared her of any crime, but then, in the 1970s, the Scientologists did a pretty good job in framing her for another crime she did not commit: this time, she faced 15 years in prison. (In 1977, the FBI raided Scientology offices around the country, and discovered Operation Freak Out, a plan that expanded on their success with the previous forged bomb threat. After that discovery, Cooper was finally exonerated of all charges.)

Cooper later wrote: “As for me, I often wish I had never ever heard the word ‘Scientology’. But given the same situation, I would still do it all over again. I would not have been capable of remaining quiet, because I learned too many scary things and talked to too many people who were being hurt.” Cooper paid a huge price to expose Scientology, not just through her book but also through what happened in her life for more than a decade. That is lawfare. For the entire decade, they did not let her go on with her career or her life, and she paid a price for it.

The wolves in watchmens’ clothing

Where previously Scientologists who wanted to leave the Church could call the Cult Awareness Network (CAN) hotline to get help, since 1996 the Church of Scientology has operated CAN as another of its “front groups”. The Church of Scientology launched a massive lawsuit against CAN and its former director Cynthia Kisser, and in 1996 the CAN declared bankruptcy. As part of the ruling against the CAN, it had to turn over boxes of confidential files on all the cults it tracked, including Scientology. Nowadays if one visits the website for the new CAN, one can see how different it is from the old CAN: there is no section on Scientology, and all the sections on other cults blame psychiatry for the actions of those cults. The scapegoating of psychiatry should be a dead give-away for those familiar with the Church of Scientology.

This is lawfare: crippling an adversary through lawsuits and then administering a hostile takeover.

Pleading the First in court

The Church of Scientology is well known for relying on the “religious freedom” defence; specifically, the right to practice a religion other than Christianity. They claim this is covered by the First Amendment. In 1989, the Church of Scientology appealed the initial ruling for the Wollersheim vs. Church of Scientology of California case, saying the practice of “fair game” against critics and former Scientologists is “a core practice of Scientology and therefore protected as religious expression”.

Think what a heinous precedent that would set. Other groups and individuals that wage lawfare on their opponents could easily argue that it’s a “religious practice”. Lawfare would become more prevalent in American - and other countries’ - courtrooms than ever.

[Author's note: An earlier version of this article on a celebrity gossip blog called Glosslip but this article is still relevant today. In this article, I wrote mainly about how the "Church" used the American legal system to their advantage, but the same can be said of the UK's legal system as well, especially in light of the suppression of the book The Complex by John Duignan. Additional comments made in this article are in italics]

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

[Note: if you're using Internet Explorer, er, don't. But seriously – you might need to click here to see the video]

In the post 9/11 era, new terms and new ideas to describe how war is being fought today have emerged in the media. One such term is “lawfare”. On page 55 of the book Unrestricted Warfare, authors Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui call for the use of “international law warfare” (seizing the earliest opportunity to set up regulations) along with a set of other types of warfare that an enemy with more firepower cannot withstand for long. Since 2001, the term has been used to describe how individual supporters of terrorism have tried to silence those who expose them. Take the case of Khalid bin Mahfouz, the Saudi Arabian billionaire who sued American author Rachel Ehrenfeld for libel in the UK because in her book Funding Evil she named him as a major financial contributor to terrorist organisations. British libel laws place the burden of proof on the defendant, and given Dr. Ehrenfeld’s limited resources – even with government documents as proof – she lost. By contrast, in 2008, Governor George Pataki of New York signed Rachel’s Law, which grants protection to American citizens being sued by ”libel tourists”. The laws of the USA and the UK differ radically when it comes to freedom of speech.

“Lawfare” is the use of a country’s legal system by an individual or corporation to utterly crush their adversaries. The term is currently used in the context of the War on Terror, but the definition can be broadened to include any other individual or group who tries to ruin an adversary in court – including the “Church” of Scientology.

“We are going to sue your ass… and your balls!”

Earlier this year, the Canadian magazine Maisonneuve published an article on long-time Scientology critic Gerry Armstrong, detailing the sustained harassment campaign against him. The author of the article goes so far as to call him Scientology’s Salman Rushdie because of the severity of the Church’s harassment. Armstrong was once in the inner circle of Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and was asked to help author Omar Garrison to compile a biography of Hubbard. When he found out the innumerable “discrepancies” in the official version of Hubbard’s life story, Armstrong declined to continue work on the project.

When he left the cult in 1981, Armstrong did so in possession of “boxes of material” on L. Ron Hubbard. In 1986, he signed a gag agreement with the Church of Scientology, but couldn’t remain silent. Since he has broken that agreement, the Church has sued him many times in the state of California. He fled to his hometown of Chilliwack, Canada but, even there, Gerry Armstrong gets no rest.

“To get PC incarcerated in a mental institution or jail, or at least to hit her so hard that she drops her attacks”

In 1968, a young author from New York wrote an expose about Scientology, which later was expanded into her 1971 release The Scandal of Scientology. At the time, Paulette Cooper could not have known that this would bring about a campaign to destroy her. The Church of Scientology even went so far as to frame her for bomb threats the Church is thought to have itself with stationary stolen from Cooper’s apartment. Forensic evidence cleared her of any crime, but then, in the 1970s, the Scientologists did a pretty good job in framing her for another crime she did not commit: this time, she faced 15 years in prison. (In 1977, the FBI raided Scientology offices around the country, and discovered Operation Freak Out, a plan that expanded on their success with the previous forged bomb threat. After that discovery, Cooper was finally exonerated of all charges.)

Cooper later wrote: “As for me, I often wish I had never ever heard the word ‘Scientology’. But given the same situation, I would still do it all over again. I would not have been capable of remaining quiet, because I learned too many scary things and talked to too many people who were being hurt.” Cooper paid a huge price to expose Scientology, not just through her book but also through what happened in her life for more than a decade. That is lawfare. For the entire decade, they did not let her go on with her career or her life, and she paid a price for it.

The wolves in watchmens’ clothing

Where previously Scientologists who wanted to leave the Church could call the Cult Awareness Network (CAN) hotline to get help, since 1996 the Church of Scientology has operated CAN as another of its “front groups”. The Church of Scientology launched a massive lawsuit against CAN and its former director Cynthia Kisser, and in 1996 the CAN declared bankruptcy. As part of the ruling against the CAN, it had to turn over boxes of confidential files on all the cults it tracked, including Scientology. Nowadays if one visits the website for the new CAN, one can see how different it is from the old CAN: there is no section on Scientology, and all the sections on other cults blame psychiatry for the actions of those cults. The scapegoating of psychiatry should be a dead give-away for those familiar with the Church of Scientology.

This is lawfare: crippling an adversary through lawsuits and then administering a hostile takeover.

Pleading the First in court

The Church of Scientology is well known for relying on the “religious freedom” defence; specifically, the right to practice a religion other than Christianity. They claim this is covered by the First Amendment. In 1989, the Church of Scientology appealed the initial ruling for the Wollersheim vs. Church of Scientology of California case, saying the practice of “fair game” against critics and former Scientologists is “a core practice of Scientology and therefore protected as religious expression”.

Think what a heinous precedent that would set. Other groups and individuals that wage lawfare on their opponents could easily argue that it’s a “religious practice”. Lawfare would become more prevalent in American - and other countries’ - courtrooms than ever.

[Author's note: An earlier version of this article on a celebrity gossip blog called Glosslip but this article is still relevant today. In this article, I wrote mainly about how the "Church" used the American legal system to their advantage, but the same can be said of the UK's legal system as well, especially in light of the suppression of the book The Complex by John Duignan. Additional comments made in this article are in italics]

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

The post Scientology 101: How the Church of Scientology uses ‘lawfare’ to silence its critics first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
292
Church of Scientology loses to First Amendment https://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/church-of-scientology-loses-to-first-amendment/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=church-of-scientology-loses-to-first-amendment Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:10:33 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/church-of-scientology-loses-to-first-amendment/ Recently, the “Church” of Scientology pushed an ordinance in Riverside County, California, to keep “members” of the group Anonymous away from their fortress-like Gold Base, and it was passed almost unanimously by Riverside County supervisors. But today, Riverside County decided to back away from that …

The post Church of Scientology loses to First Amendment first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
Recently, the “Church” of Scientology pushed an ordinance in Riverside County, California, to keep “members” of the group Anonymous away from their fortress-like Gold Base, and it was passed almost unanimously by Riverside County supervisors. But today, Riverside County decided to back away from that decision, at least for now because of the inevitable fall-out from such a restrictive ordinance.

The ordinance pushed by the “Church” would restrict picketers by prohibiting them from protesting within 300 feet of Gold Base. The “Church” and their friend inside Riverside County, Supervisor Jeff Stone, argued that Gold Base is a residential area, and there is already a law that prohibits picketers from picketing a person’s home. During the hearings, proponents tried to argue that Anonymous is a hate group by pulling images from imageboard 4chan, which is regarded as the “birthplace” of Anonymous. (4chan is an image board which has spawned many internet inside jokes and memes such as the Rick Roll. Its humour is often explicit, and, admittedly, sometimes offensive.)

Free speech has not quite won this battle yet: the Riverside County board of supervisors still think this ordinance is worth “massaging and tweaking” so that a compromise can be reached. But, for now, this is a temporary victory for Anonymous, and a temporary loss for the tyrannical “Church” of Scientology.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

Your report is inaccurate. The proposed Ordinance would not have prevented picketing at Gold Base as it clearly and explicitly restricts itself to a single residential building that is being targeted by picketers. Local Press reports and the Board of Supervisors were aware of this.
What the Church of Scientology’s lawyers are trying to do is not to get picketing banned directly but to create legal complications and court cases so that the picketers will give up and go away.

Most prisons are indeed considered residences.

The main problem is that nobody, particularky people linked one way or the other to the criminal cult, is able to pass a law which would be very contrary to the First Amendmen, US constutution, as well as against the main provisions of the UN Pact on Human rights.

Scintology cult abused the IRS, CONTRARY to the US Supreme Court, but it should not have any right to suppress free speech and definitive strggle against its completely illegal violations of its own staffs and clients human rights.

Recently, the “Church” of Scientology pushed an ordinance in Riverside County, California, to keep “members” of the group Anonymous away from their fortress-like Gold Base, and it was passed almost unanimously by Riverside County supervisors. But today, Riverside County decided to back away from that decision, at least for now because of the inevitable fall-out from such a restrictive ordinance.

The ordinance pushed by the “Church” would restrict picketers by prohibiting them from protesting within 300 feet of Gold Base. The “Church” and their friend inside Riverside County, Supervisor Jeff Stone, argued that Gold Base is a residential area, and there is already a law that prohibits picketers from picketing a person’s home. During the hearings, proponents tried to argue that Anonymous is a hate group by pulling images from imageboard 4chan, which is regarded as the “birthplace” of Anonymous. (4chan is an image board which has spawned many internet inside jokes and memes such as the Rick Roll. Its humour is often explicit, and, admittedly, sometimes offensive.)

Free speech has not quite won this battle yet: the Riverside County board of supervisors still think this ordinance is worth “massaging and tweaking” so that a compromise can be reached. But, for now, this is a temporary victory for Anonymous, and a temporary loss for the tyrannical “Church” of Scientology.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

Your report is inaccurate. The proposed Ordinance would not have prevented picketing at Gold Base as it clearly and explicitly restricts itself to a single residential building that is being targeted by picketers. Local Press reports and the Board of Supervisors were aware of this.
What the Church of Scientology’s lawyers are trying to do is not to get picketing banned directly but to create legal complications and court cases so that the picketers will give up and go away.

Most prisons are indeed considered residences.

The main problem is that nobody, particularky people linked one way or the other to the criminal cult, is able to pass a law which would be very contrary to the First Amendmen, US constutution, as well as against the main provisions of the UN Pact on Human rights.

Scintology cult abused the IRS, CONTRARY to the US Supreme Court, but it should not have any right to suppress free speech and definitive strggle against its completely illegal violations of its own staffs and clients human rights.

The post Church of Scientology loses to First Amendment first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
242
Scientology 101: What is the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF)? https://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/what-is-the-rpf/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-is-the-rpf Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:14:07 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/12/what-is-the-rpf/ Reading our recent review of The Complex by John Duignan, you may have come across the term Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), which Duignan describes as “a dark prison complex”. You may have been skeptical about the nature of the RPF. I was, too, when I first …

The post Scientology 101: What is the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF)? first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
Reading our recent review of The Complex by John Duignan, you may have come across the term Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), which Duignan describes as “a dark prison complex”. You may have been skeptical about the nature of the RPF. I was, too, when I first heard about it. But sometimes, as the saying goes, truth is stranger than fiction.

First of all: yes, the RPF is real. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard created it in 1974 for “delinquent” members of Scientology’s elite Sea Organization so that they could have a chance to “redeem” themselves and not get kicked out of the Sea Organization. Sea Org members are taught that they are the only people that can save this planet from destruction so to be in the bad graces of the Sea Org hierarchy is a serious matter. The RPF is said to be voluntary, but many ex-Sea Org members were dragged into the RPF involuntarily. Hana Eltringham Whitfield, who was once in L. Ron Hubbard’s inner circle, was reportedly taken to the RPF in Clearwater, Florida “escorted [by] heavy men, both well over 6′ tall”.

Per her statement, RPF inmates have to perform hard labor from sunrise to sunset, with little rest in between. They are served leftovers from what regular Sea Org members eat, and they have to run everywhere. Those who aren’t sufficiently ”rehabilitated” are sent to “the RPF’s RPF”. Hana Whitfield states:

One of my buddies was assigned to the RPF’s RPF for two months for refusing to divulge confidential information for which she had been bonded in the Guardian’s Office. She was kept in that space excommunicado for the entire time, with limited bathing and toilet privileges, all the time being threatened and verbally harassed by RPF superiors. She finally emerged a broken, silent, sullen person who soon after managed to escape from the RPF and the Fort Harrison Hotel. Her name was Lynn Froyland. I have never seen her since she left.

So what are the heinous “crimes” that a Sea Org member can be interned for? Not bringing in enough revenue for their franchise, bringing bad publicity to the Church, questioning their superiors’ orders, and “having negative thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard” (or about the current leader of the Church of Scientology, David Miscavige).

Along with days of back-breaking labour, RPF inmates have to go through auditing, which normally is used as therapy. But when auditing is performed on RPF inmates, it mirrors the brainwashing techniques used on American prisoners of war during the Korean War. Dr. Stephen Kent, an expert on new-age religions and cults writes “People confessed to all manner of crimes, including ones allegedly from past lives (Nefertiti, 1997: 12). In essence, Scientology’s supposedly “religious” tool – the e-meter [a machine with two steel cans which pick up electrical signals-Ed.] – became the functional equivalent of a secular lie detector”.

High-ranking Scientology leaders assume inmates have committed crimes or are working for their enemies (guilty until proven innocent). Former Scientologist Monica Pignotti details how an auditing session would go:

They had prepared lists that they called security checks where they would ask you all kinds of questions on every possible thing a person could have done wrong–any possible thing you could think of in your life or… against the organization. ‘Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever had any unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard? About Mary Sue Hubbard? About Scientology?…. Have you ever committed murder?’ Just a whole list where anything [might] read on the e-meter. And the auditor would say, ‘What are you thinking of right now?’ and you would have to answer the question until… the meter didn’t read anymore…

When inmates are deemed “rehabilitated”, they have to write “success stories”. The normal formula of an RPF success story is to acknowledge their past crimes, tell of how their RPF experience improved them, and to glorify L. Ron Hubbard and his perfect spiritual “technology”. See an example of such a success story here.

The average RPF sentence can be served quickly depending on satisfactory completion, but, in many cases, inmates stayed on for longer than a year. Former Scientologist Chuck Beatty served the longest term on the RPF: 7 years. Sent to the RPF in 1995 for wanting to blow the whistle on the “Church’s” upper management, he initially wanted to spend just six months. But after expressing a desire to leave, or “route out” of the Sea Org, he was talked into staying on the RPF so that he could redeem himself among his Sea Org colleagues. Finally in 2002, he regained his freedom and left the RPF – and the “Church”. Asked why it took 7 years for him to leave the RPF, he writes in an email:

It’s a lot of rubber bands that one has attached very tightly to oneself, when one gets into the Sea Org and stays in for a couple decades. Walking out is not easy. It’s not made to be easy just to walk out, not unless they don’t want you. If they want you, they want you to stay.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

Someone needs to research the “Truth Rundown” which is arguably the most important “spiritual” therapy that one cooperatively delivers and receives with one’s RPF partner. This “Truth Rundown” the name broadcasts the irony of it. Hubbard’s authorization of such bold names to his spiritual rundowns is classic L. Ron Hubbard. The “Truth Rundown” is second only in such crassness, to another Hubbard rundown called the “Superpower Rundown.” But on the RPF, one spends arguable one’s MOST concerted redemption focus on the “Truth Rundown.” It MUST be researched in detail, someday, and it alone will stand to show just how close Hubbard’s Scientology spiritual therapy (fraud therapy) is to brainwashing. I hope to hell someone gets the Truth Rundown writings of Hubbard out into the public domain, and that some advanced Scientology observer does the homework and research.

Most troublesome, is this exact scenario. The Truth Rundown deals with a Sea Org member’s false vilification of one of the Sea Org’s top ranked executives. In particular, any false vilification of David Miscavige, would be addressed by the person on the RPF.

Realize it is only the top ranked people who have years of dealings with Miscavige, intimate day to day dealings on various Sea Org strategic big and small administrative and otherwise dealings, that a Sea Org member might encounter David Miscavige’s irrational and explosive temper tantrums.

Well, if a Sea Org member who was overwhelmed and physically abused by Miscavige were to be sent to the RPF, they likely have some instances of them “falsely vilifying” Miscavige.

But Miscavige deserves to be vilified.

But people are made to do their Truth Rundown therapy processing, and change any harbored ill feelings for Miscavige to glowing good thoughts for Miscavige.

This subject, David Miscavige, he’s supposed to be a good guy.

People on the RPF, who have BAD experiences with Miscavige are made to change their thoughts.

This is roughly how the Truth Rundown is brainwashing, in that harbored ill feelings that Sea Org members HAVE (rightly) for David Miscavige are attempted to be “redeemed” out of them, on the Truth Rundown.

Hubbard didn’t entertain the thought that he, or that his supreme leaders/executives could be wrong.

Hubbard’s extremist therapy processing leads to thought crime eradication, in that a person would have to change their “viewpoint” from a bad viewpoint to a good viewpoint, in order to succeed in completing the Truth Rundown.

This is brainwashing.

Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org (1975-2003)
I did two stints on the RPF:
Feb 88 – May 88
Jul 1996 – Mar 2003
I loved the RPF hard work, hated the mind f-ing Hubbard fraud therapy

Thank you for sharing this! I wonder how long it will take before the US government takes action. Germany already has them under surveillance.

http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/en/en_fields_of_work/scientology/

Thank you for that insight Chuck. Wow, this does bear similarity to the Communist “thought reform” camps of old.

I have talked with RPF inmates out there at the crime syndicate’s Gilman Hot Springs compound, and they were extremly unhappy, some of them inches away from crying. They are ordered not to speak but when protesters would come out and try to help them, some would talk — after looking around to see if they were being watched.

The Scientology crooks commit massive human rights abuses and they hate civil rights — freedom of speech being their worse enemy.

But the customers — the 40,000 or so remaining customers world wide — they need help escaping and walking away. They are victims who need courage and commitment to just stand up and walk out, if they’re allowed to.

Awesome article. Hopefully this will help more people see how dangerous $cientology is.

Reading our recent review of The Complex by John Duignan, you may have come across the term Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), which Duignan describes as “a dark prison complex”. You may have been skeptical about the nature of the RPF. I was, too, when I first heard about it. But sometimes, as the saying goes, truth is stranger than fiction.

First of all: yes, the RPF is real. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard created it in 1974 for “delinquent” members of Scientology’s elite Sea Organization so that they could have a chance to “redeem” themselves and not get kicked out of the Sea Organization. Sea Org members are taught that they are the only people that can save this planet from destruction so to be in the bad graces of the Sea Org hierarchy is a serious matter. The RPF is said to be voluntary, but many ex-Sea Org members were dragged into the RPF involuntarily. Hana Eltringham Whitfield, who was once in L. Ron Hubbard’s inner circle, was reportedly taken to the RPF in Clearwater, Florida “escorted [by] heavy men, both well over 6′ tall”.

Per her statement, RPF inmates have to perform hard labor from sunrise to sunset, with little rest in between. They are served leftovers from what regular Sea Org members eat, and they have to run everywhere. Those who aren’t sufficiently ”rehabilitated” are sent to “the RPF’s RPF”. Hana Whitfield states:

One of my buddies was assigned to the RPF’s RPF for two months for refusing to divulge confidential information for which she had been bonded in the Guardian’s Office. She was kept in that space excommunicado for the entire time, with limited bathing and toilet privileges, all the time being threatened and verbally harassed by RPF superiors. She finally emerged a broken, silent, sullen person who soon after managed to escape from the RPF and the Fort Harrison Hotel. Her name was Lynn Froyland. I have never seen her since she left.

So what are the heinous “crimes” that a Sea Org member can be interned for? Not bringing in enough revenue for their franchise, bringing bad publicity to the Church, questioning their superiors’ orders, and “having negative thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard” (or about the current leader of the Church of Scientology, David Miscavige).

Along with days of back-breaking labour, RPF inmates have to go through auditing, which normally is used as therapy. But when auditing is performed on RPF inmates, it mirrors the brainwashing techniques used on American prisoners of war during the Korean War. Dr. Stephen Kent, an expert on new-age religions and cults writes “People confessed to all manner of crimes, including ones allegedly from past lives (Nefertiti, 1997: 12). In essence, Scientology’s supposedly “religious” tool – the e-meter [a machine with two steel cans which pick up electrical signals-Ed.] – became the functional equivalent of a secular lie detector”.

High-ranking Scientology leaders assume inmates have committed crimes or are working for their enemies (guilty until proven innocent). Former Scientologist Monica Pignotti details how an auditing session would go:

They had prepared lists that they called security checks where they would ask you all kinds of questions on every possible thing a person could have done wrong–any possible thing you could think of in your life or… against the organization. ‘Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever had any unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard? About Mary Sue Hubbard? About Scientology?…. Have you ever committed murder?’ Just a whole list where anything [might] read on the e-meter. And the auditor would say, ‘What are you thinking of right now?’ and you would have to answer the question until… the meter didn’t read anymore…

When inmates are deemed “rehabilitated”, they have to write “success stories”. The normal formula of an RPF success story is to acknowledge their past crimes, tell of how their RPF experience improved them, and to glorify L. Ron Hubbard and his perfect spiritual “technology”. See an example of such a success story here.

The average RPF sentence can be served quickly depending on satisfactory completion, but, in many cases, inmates stayed on for longer than a year. Former Scientologist Chuck Beatty served the longest term on the RPF: 7 years. Sent to the RPF in 1995 for wanting to blow the whistle on the “Church’s” upper management, he initially wanted to spend just six months. But after expressing a desire to leave, or “route out” of the Sea Org, he was talked into staying on the RPF so that he could redeem himself among his Sea Org colleagues. Finally in 2002, he regained his freedom and left the RPF – and the “Church”. Asked why it took 7 years for him to leave the RPF, he writes in an email:

It’s a lot of rubber bands that one has attached very tightly to oneself, when one gets into the Sea Org and stays in for a couple decades. Walking out is not easy. It’s not made to be easy just to walk out, not unless they don’t want you. If they want you, they want you to stay.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

Someone needs to research the “Truth Rundown” which is arguably the most important “spiritual” therapy that one cooperatively delivers and receives with one’s RPF partner. This “Truth Rundown” the name broadcasts the irony of it. Hubbard’s authorization of such bold names to his spiritual rundowns is classic L. Ron Hubbard. The “Truth Rundown” is second only in such crassness, to another Hubbard rundown called the “Superpower Rundown.” But on the RPF, one spends arguable one’s MOST concerted redemption focus on the “Truth Rundown.” It MUST be researched in detail, someday, and it alone will stand to show just how close Hubbard’s Scientology spiritual therapy (fraud therapy) is to brainwashing. I hope to hell someone gets the Truth Rundown writings of Hubbard out into the public domain, and that some advanced Scientology observer does the homework and research.

Most troublesome, is this exact scenario. The Truth Rundown deals with a Sea Org member’s false vilification of one of the Sea Org’s top ranked executives. In particular, any false vilification of David Miscavige, would be addressed by the person on the RPF.

Realize it is only the top ranked people who have years of dealings with Miscavige, intimate day to day dealings on various Sea Org strategic big and small administrative and otherwise dealings, that a Sea Org member might encounter David Miscavige’s irrational and explosive temper tantrums.

Well, if a Sea Org member who was overwhelmed and physically abused by Miscavige were to be sent to the RPF, they likely have some instances of them “falsely vilifying” Miscavige.

But Miscavige deserves to be vilified.

But people are made to do their Truth Rundown therapy processing, and change any harbored ill feelings for Miscavige to glowing good thoughts for Miscavige.

This subject, David Miscavige, he’s supposed to be a good guy.

People on the RPF, who have BAD experiences with Miscavige are made to change their thoughts.

This is roughly how the Truth Rundown is brainwashing, in that harbored ill feelings that Sea Org members HAVE (rightly) for David Miscavige are attempted to be “redeemed” out of them, on the Truth Rundown.

Hubbard didn’t entertain the thought that he, or that his supreme leaders/executives could be wrong.

Hubbard’s extremist therapy processing leads to thought crime eradication, in that a person would have to change their “viewpoint” from a bad viewpoint to a good viewpoint, in order to succeed in completing the Truth Rundown.

This is brainwashing.

Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org (1975-2003)
I did two stints on the RPF:
Feb 88 – May 88
Jul 1996 – Mar 2003
I loved the RPF hard work, hated the mind f-ing Hubbard fraud therapy

Thank you for sharing this! I wonder how long it will take before the US government takes action. Germany already has them under surveillance.

http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/en/en_fields_of_work/scientology/

Thank you for that insight Chuck. Wow, this does bear similarity to the Communist “thought reform” camps of old.

I have talked with RPF inmates out there at the crime syndicate’s Gilman Hot Springs compound, and they were extremly unhappy, some of them inches away from crying. They are ordered not to speak but when protesters would come out and try to help them, some would talk — after looking around to see if they were being watched.

The Scientology crooks commit massive human rights abuses and they hate civil rights — freedom of speech being their worse enemy.

But the customers — the 40,000 or so remaining customers world wide — they need help escaping and walking away. They are victims who need courage and commitment to just stand up and walk out, if they’re allowed to.

Awesome article. Hopefully this will help more people see how dangerous $cientology is.

The post Scientology 101: What is the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF)? first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
308
Former member shot and killed outside Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre https://counterknowledge.com/2008/11/former-member-shot-and-killed-outside-church-of-scientologys-celebrity-centre/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=former-member-shot-and-killed-outside-church-of-scientologys-celebrity-centre Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:09:36 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/11/former-member-shot-and-killed-outside-church-of-scientologys-celebrity-centre/ The Church of Scientology’s “Celebrity Centre”  On Sunday, November 23 in Los Angeles, California, a former Scientologist wielding two samurai swords was shot dead by a security guard as he approached the Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre. Police initially detained the security guard for questioning, but later released …

The post Former member shot and killed outside Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
The Church of Scientology's "Celebrity Center"
The Church of Scientology’s “Celebrity Centre” 

On Sunday, November 23 in Los Angeles, California, a former Scientologist wielding two samurai swords was shot dead by a security guard as he approached the Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre. Police initially detained the security guard for questioning, but later released him after watching a surveillance tape that backed up the guard’s version of events. LAPD detective Wendi Brendt is quoted in the L.A. Times as saying the man had a previous relationship with the Church of Scientology, but it was unclear to what degree.

In the hours after his death, journalists and members of the internet collective known as “Anonymous” scoured the internet for details about the man, identified as Mario Majorski, of Florence, Oregon. According to this AP newstory, featured on a local Oregon news channel website, Majorski was not of entirely sound mind. In October, he had been arrested for threatening an auto club member. He also threatened the police. He had a prior arrest for unlawful possession of a weapon, and, in 2006, a medical facility that was taking care of Majorski’s mother sought a restraining order against him.

In 1993, while he was a student at the University of California, Los Angeles, the Church of Scientology used Majorski as a plaintiff to sue psychiatrist Dr. Louis J. West. The lawsuit claimed that West interfered with Majorski’s Scientology practises, but it was dismissed for lack of evidence.

Mario Majorski may already have been unstable when he got into Scientology, but did Scientology make his mental illness more manageable, or did Scientology make it worse?

This is not the first time the “Church” has aggravated mental illness in its adherents: in 2003, Scientologist Elli Perkins was stabbed 77 times by her schizophrenic son Jeremy. Jeremy’s schizophrenia could have been controlled with medication, but following advice from the “Church”, Jeremy did not get the treatment he needed. While the security guard did what he was trained to do to protect the safety of his client, the Church of Scientology is surely – at least in part – responsible for Majorski’s breakdown and tragic death.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

As my grandpa always used to say: The only people spreading more lies than Scientology are ‘anonymous’

How is this a lie?

UPDATE: Further research has turned up evidence that Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis lied about Mario Majorski’s years of involvement with Scientology. A Scientology publication shows that he may have been active as recently as 2004.

Here are the scans of that magazine: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa286/kuffarjahideen/3061441343_67e9d71048_b.jpg

and: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa286/kuffarjahideen/3062281394_dd27c7bd1d_b.jpg

“Mario Majorski may already have been unstable when he got into Scientology, but did Scientology make his mental illness more manageable, or did Scientology make it worse?”

A very good question. Scientology is not a treatment for mental illness. It’s a training program which claims to “free” people of stuff that blocks their “natural” abilities (like telepathy and telekinesis.) Of course anyone who buys that without a shred of evidence is (IMO) a bit whacked to begin with.

So yes! I think Scientology cannot really address issues of mental health for no other reason than they don’t seem to believe in such things. In that light I can’t see how they could help somone with real problems.

Mario got involved in Scientology in the late 70’s and early 80’s.

I don’t think that he could be considered a “former” customer inasmuch as he was a customer for 15 years, handed money over to the crime syndicate at least as recent as 2004, and was probably issueing “threats” typical of Scientology customers who want their money back after realizing that they have been rooked and swindled by the criminal enterprise.

The insane Scientology crime bosses and ringleaders certainly reguarded the dead customer as an active customer; that’s what Scientology does, even to the point of sending people advertizements for more of the same old bait-and-switch bunko fraud years and decades after the customer wakes up and walks away.

What’s certainly is that the dead Scientology customer was crazy and that the Scientology crime syndicate fucked up the guy’s brain to the point where he acted out — like so many other long-term customers who subjected themselves to Scientology’s highly debilitative “auditing” and “training routines” which drives people literally insane.

Carg Sagan wrote on his book Demon Haunted Planet that L. Ron Hubbard had developed written procedures for driving people insane. That is a brief summation of why the Scientology crime syndicate has the growing body count that it does.

No legitimate church has to turn some of its customers in to body guards and give them handguns to protect themselves against fellow customers. The Scientology crime syndicate is organized crime, however.

This was a gangland slaying.

Scientology of course didn’t make Majorski’s mental state worse. This article first ask did Scientology make his mental condition worse, then answers yes in the next paragraph without any proof except another story using hearsay and speculation.

The real question in this article isn’t about Majorski, but it’s why the author is so openly irrational in his bias. It’s as if he doesn’t care how illogical he appears, which is actually good PR for Scientology and works against him.

The Church of Scientology’s “Celebrity Centre” 

On Sunday, November 23 in Los Angeles, California, a former Scientologist wielding two samurai swords was shot dead by a security guard as he approached the Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre. Police initially detained the security guard for questioning, but later released him after watching a surveillance tape that backed up the guard’s version of events. LAPD detective Wendi Brendt is quoted in the L.A. Times as saying the man had a previous relationship with the Church of Scientology, but it was unclear to what degree.

In the hours after his death, journalists and members of the internet collective known as “Anonymous” scoured the internet for details about the man, identified as Mario Majorski, of Florence, Oregon. According to this AP newstory, featured on a local Oregon news channel website, Majorski was not of entirely sound mind. In October, he had been arrested for threatening an auto club member. He also threatened the police. He had a prior arrest for unlawful possession of a weapon, and, in 2006, a medical facility that was taking care of Majorski’s mother sought a restraining order against him.

In 1993, while he was a student at the University of California, Los Angeles, the Church of Scientology used Majorski as a plaintiff to sue psychiatrist Dr. Louis J. West. The lawsuit claimed that West interfered with Majorski’s Scientology practises, but it was dismissed for lack of evidence.

Mario Majorski may already have been unstable when he got into Scientology, but did Scientology make his mental illness more manageable, or did Scientology make it worse?

This is not the first time the “Church” has aggravated mental illness in its adherents: in 2003, Scientologist Elli Perkins was stabbed 77 times by her schizophrenic son Jeremy. Jeremy’s schizophrenia could have been controlled with medication, but following advice from the “Church”, Jeremy did not get the treatment he needed. While the security guard did what he was trained to do to protect the safety of his client, the Church of Scientology is surely – at least in part – responsible for Majorski’s breakdown and tragic death.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

As my grandpa always used to say: The only people spreading more lies than Scientology are ‘anonymous’

How is this a lie?

UPDATE: Further research has turned up evidence that Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis lied about Mario Majorski’s years of involvement with Scientology. A Scientology publication shows that he may have been active as recently as 2004.

Here are the scans of that magazine: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa286/kuffarjahideen/3061441343_67e9d71048_b.jpg

and: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa286/kuffarjahideen/3062281394_dd27c7bd1d_b.jpg

“Mario Majorski may already have been unstable when he got into Scientology, but did Scientology make his mental illness more manageable, or did Scientology make it worse?”

A very good question. Scientology is not a treatment for mental illness. It’s a training program which claims to “free” people of stuff that blocks their “natural” abilities (like telepathy and telekinesis.) Of course anyone who buys that without a shred of evidence is (IMO) a bit whacked to begin with.

So yes! I think Scientology cannot really address issues of mental health for no other reason than they don’t seem to believe in such things. In that light I can’t see how they could help somone with real problems.

Mario got involved in Scientology in the late 70’s and early 80’s.

I don’t think that he could be considered a “former” customer inasmuch as he was a customer for 15 years, handed money over to the crime syndicate at least as recent as 2004, and was probably issueing “threats” typical of Scientology customers who want their money back after realizing that they have been rooked and swindled by the criminal enterprise.

The insane Scientology crime bosses and ringleaders certainly reguarded the dead customer as an active customer; that’s what Scientology does, even to the point of sending people advertizements for more of the same old bait-and-switch bunko fraud years and decades after the customer wakes up and walks away.

What’s certainly is that the dead Scientology customer was crazy and that the Scientology crime syndicate fucked up the guy’s brain to the point where he acted out — like so many other long-term customers who subjected themselves to Scientology’s highly debilitative “auditing” and “training routines” which drives people literally insane.

Carg Sagan wrote on his book Demon Haunted Planet that L. Ron Hubbard had developed written procedures for driving people insane. That is a brief summation of why the Scientology crime syndicate has the growing body count that it does.

No legitimate church has to turn some of its customers in to body guards and give them handguns to protect themselves against fellow customers. The Scientology crime syndicate is organized crime, however.

This was a gangland slaying.

Scientology of course didn’t make Majorski’s mental state worse. This article first ask did Scientology make his mental condition worse, then answers yes in the next paragraph without any proof except another story using hearsay and speculation.

The real question in this article isn’t about Majorski, but it’s why the author is so openly irrational in his bias. It’s as if he doesn’t care how illogical he appears, which is actually good PR for Scientology and works against him.

The post Former member shot and killed outside Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
205
More on John Duignan’s The Complex: Brave publishers defy Scientology’s attempts to bully them https://counterknowledge.com/2008/11/more-on-john-duignans-the-complex-brave-publishers-defy-scientologys-attempts-to-bully-them/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=more-on-john-duignans-the-complex-brave-publishers-defy-scientologys-attempts-to-bully-them Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:09:58 +0000 http://counterknowledge.com/2008/11/more-on-john-duignans-the-complex-brave-publishers-defy-scientologys-attempts-to-bully-them/ Further to our earlier coverage here and here, this morning I received an e-mail from Aoife Barrett, editorial director of Merlin Publishing, the brave Irish publisher who is resisting the Church of Scientology’s attempts to silence John Duignan. She supplied me with the following statement …

The post More on John Duignan’s The Complex: Brave publishers defy Scientology’s attempts to bully them first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>

Further to our earlier coverage here and here, this morning I received an e-mail from Aoife Barrett, editorial director of Merlin Publishing, the brave Irish publisher who is resisting the Church of Scientology’s attempts to silence John Duignan. She supplied me with the following statement for publication on Counterknowledge.com:

Merlin Publishing has received a solicitor’s letter from a member of the Church of Scientology alleging that he has been defamed in our publication ‘The Complex: An Insider Exposes the Covert World of the Church of Scientology’  by John Duignan and Nicola Tallant, which we have emphatically denied.

We understand that the solicitors copied their originating letter to Amazon.co.uk who have removed the book from their website. We have had no communication from Amazon.co.uk at all and they have not notified us of their dealings with regards to the book. ‘The Complex’ is still widely available in bookshops around Ireland and we have no intention of withdrawing it. Irish booksellers have also told us they will continue to stock the book.

We would like to sell international rights to The Complex particularly in the US and the UK and are in negotiations with publishers in both countries. At the moment the book is available to buy directly from ourselves from all countries except the UK.

We believe that the claim been made is vexatious and is another example of the Church of Scientology trying to prevent any criticism of their organisation being published.

Update: We have now published a review of The Complex.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

Readers in the UK can still order a copy of The Complex from Easons: http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan

Who is the idiot saying he can be defamed as a scientologist?

Years ago, an american judge proposed hat it was almost impossible to defame scientology, as it was soooo criminal.

Scientologists applying scientology should prove their rants before pretending. They never do.

r

Find out why the “Church” of $cientology is counter-knowledge, at http://WWW.XENU.NET or just Wikipedia “Scientology” or “Dianetics.”

– What are “secrets” they trying to cover up?
– Why did a sword-wielding former member of the CoS show up their Hollywood building? How had the CoS driven him to insanity? And WHY was he murdered in cold blood by hired security guards?
– What is the CoS trying to protect…. or hide?
– Why does the Co$ attract Hollywood types like Tom Cruise and John Travolta?

Is the book any good? Is it available? Besides that it is anti-Scientology, is the book actually good/interesting?

Book makes for an interesting and sometimes scary read. It focuses alot on the different internal organisations and as a reader you are shocked at what the members tolerate without question. John Duignan does a good job of explaining how he was continually conditioned to remove all critical thought and follow orders without question. If you are interested in reading an insiders story written in a very affable manner i recomend it. Irish bookstore ‘eason’ happily accept international orders google for them.

If someone happens to buy this book, will someone please scan it in and make it available to download via bittorrent?

In terms of the book itself, it’s feels very much like George Orwell’s 1984. It’s structured as an autobiographical account which takes the reader on a tour (with a few chronological jumps) of Duignan’s troubled childhood, why the cult was able to snag him. Then as he rises through the ranks we follow him as we gradually find more out about the organisation and the people/motivations behind it.

One of the best books I have ever read. I highly recommend it. Order it from Ireland or maybe a brave somebody will download the book for everyone to read. Too bad the cult won’t allow it’s followers to use the internet. One day they will lose their control and the sick secrets will be out. What a dangerous cult who completely controls these suckers minds!!! Pitiful!!!!!!!!!!

Further to our earlier coverage here and here, this morning I received an e-mail from Aoife Barrett, editorial director of Merlin Publishing, the brave Irish publisher who is resisting the Church of Scientology’s attempts to silence John Duignan. She supplied me with the following statement for publication on Counterknowledge.com:

Merlin Publishing has received a solicitor’s letter from a member of the Church of Scientology alleging that he has been defamed in our publication ‘The Complex: An Insider Exposes the Covert World of the Church of Scientology’  by John Duignan and Nicola Tallant, which we have emphatically denied.

We understand that the solicitors copied their originating letter to Amazon.co.uk who have removed the book from their website. We have had no communication from Amazon.co.uk at all and they have not notified us of their dealings with regards to the book. ‘The Complex’ is still widely available in bookshops around Ireland and we have no intention of withdrawing it. Irish booksellers have also told us they will continue to stock the book.

We would like to sell international rights to The Complex particularly in the US and the UK and are in negotiations with publishers in both countries. At the moment the book is available to buy directly from ourselves from all countries except the UK.

We believe that the claim been made is vexatious and is another example of the Church of Scientology trying to prevent any criticism of their organisation being published.

Update: We have now published a review of The Complex.

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!

Readers in the UK can still order a copy of The Complex from Easons: http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan

Who is the idiot saying he can be defamed as a scientologist?

Years ago, an american judge proposed hat it was almost impossible to defame scientology, as it was soooo criminal.

Scientologists applying scientology should prove their rants before pretending. They never do.

r

Find out why the “Church” of $cientology is counter-knowledge, at http://WWW.XENU.NET or just Wikipedia “Scientology” or “Dianetics.”

– What are “secrets” they trying to cover up?
– Why did a sword-wielding former member of the CoS show up their Hollywood building? How had the CoS driven him to insanity? And WHY was he murdered in cold blood by hired security guards?
– What is the CoS trying to protect…. or hide?
– Why does the Co$ attract Hollywood types like Tom Cruise and John Travolta?

Is the book any good? Is it available? Besides that it is anti-Scientology, is the book actually good/interesting?

Book makes for an interesting and sometimes scary read. It focuses alot on the different internal organisations and as a reader you are shocked at what the members tolerate without question. John Duignan does a good job of explaining how he was continually conditioned to remove all critical thought and follow orders without question. If you are interested in reading an insiders story written in a very affable manner i recomend it. Irish bookstore ‘eason’ happily accept international orders google for them.

If someone happens to buy this book, will someone please scan it in and make it available to download via bittorrent?

In terms of the book itself, it’s feels very much like George Orwell’s 1984. It’s structured as an autobiographical account which takes the reader on a tour (with a few chronological jumps) of Duignan’s troubled childhood, why the cult was able to snag him. Then as he rises through the ranks we follow him as we gradually find more out about the organisation and the people/motivations behind it.

One of the best books I have ever read. I highly recommend it. Order it from Ireland or maybe a brave somebody will download the book for everyone to read. Too bad the cult won’t allow it’s followers to use the internet. One day they will lose their control and the sick secrets will be out. What a dangerous cult who completely controls these suckers minds!!! Pitiful!!!!!!!!!!

The post More on John Duignan’s The Complex: Brave publishers defy Scientology’s attempts to bully them first appeared on counterknowledge.com.]]>
221